By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sales Discussion - Blu-rays sale percentage tracking

Vetteman94 said:
ElGranCabeza said:
Vetteman94 said:
ElGranCabeza said:
Vetteman94 said:

Twilight original release was bad for Blu-ray.  Although the Blu-ray release was limited, the numbers were just to heavily in favor of DVD.

 

The Full release of the Blu-ray version didnt do much better,  it only did about 12%.  Which is terrible considering thats 12% of a 2 month old titles weekly sales

Well if I remember right, the original twighlight released on Blu Ray 2 weeks or a month after it was released on DVD

Well the chart doesnt lie, it shows 7% sales for Blu-ray.   It was a limited original release, Best Buy and Target only I believe, and then a few weeks later it had a full release. 

You are indeed correct, I'm just saying that - along with the fact that there was a lot less Blu Ray players back then - plays a factor. I expect 2nd moon to be around 20%

Well thats a bold prediction,  I predict no better than 15%,  its just not a movie that the demographic is going to care about it being on Blu-ray.

Well a lot of movies in genres that don't fit the Blu Ray/PS3 demographics are having opening weeks of about 20% so I think that's a decent guess :)



Around the Network

Bring on Avatar!



@Grey21

"I think many families out there have no need or no momney for Blu-Ray + HDTV"

Give me a break! All appliance need replacing eventually. Nearly all I know now own a HDTV of some sorts, even my grandparents!

Another thing people like u overlook is that BD players are DVD players too, and have become very reasonable in price. Why would u buy a DVD player, when u can pick up a BD player for around the same price?

I have a question, why have a HDTV at all if u are not using it to recieve a HD signal? I mean, without BD your HD TV is a waste of money. U can watch digital TV on any TV with a set-top-box, and digital TV is not HD.

HDTVs were made for a HD signal, and that is Blu-ray.



Playing and finishing games first>>>>>>>>>>Then talking!

Opinions are subjective and just like moods, can change.

TOP 12: Deus Ex, Shadow Man, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturn, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Metroid Prime, Zelda (series), Uncharted (series), FF Tactics, Persona (series), Demons Souls, Vagrant Story.

MOST WANTED: Deus Ex: Human Revolution, The Last Guardian, ICO/Shadow OTC HD

@Grey21

"Afterall none of Sony's formats has ever been a succes, it's like they are cursed."

Oh, how embarassing for u. I just read this part of your post. Do u use a thingy called a "CD", which SONY and Phillips created back in 1976/1977? RAOTFL... priceless!

Do u also realise that SONY & Phillips also were the 1st to create DVD (which was called MMCD, also called CDi)? Toshiba's SD version of the DVD, (which is what we have today, got the backing of IBM first and became the top format almost straight away. But SONY and Phillips invented it first. Have u ever used a DVD or CD?

What I cannot believe is that there are people who still doubt Blu-ray. What rock do these people live under?



Playing and finishing games first>>>>>>>>>>Then talking!

Opinions are subjective and just like moods, can change.

TOP 12: Deus Ex, Shadow Man, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturn, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Metroid Prime, Zelda (series), Uncharted (series), FF Tactics, Persona (series), Demons Souls, Vagrant Story.

MOST WANTED: Deus Ex: Human Revolution, The Last Guardian, ICO/Shadow OTC HD

Vetteman94 said:
Grey21 said:
The difference between a Blu-Ray and a DVD are substantial but they are not issential. Having an old VCR wth its decreasing picture quality became unthinkable when the DVD market started to grow. Now there is nothing wrong with talking down on the Blu-Ray, infact many people think your cool when you say your saving money for important things. Saying that about the DVD would net you a dicussion about why the DVD is better then the VCR.

I think many families out there have no need or no momney for Blu-Ray + HDTV. Students and some rich folk can find the time or the need but Blu-Ray's width spread succes will have to wait a few more years. It could be that by then another (cheaper) competitor has shown himself to take the cake. Afterall none of Sony's formats has ever been a succes, it's like they are cursed.

Wow well for one,  that point has been brought up and discussed many times in this thread,  no need to keep bringing it up.

Also Blu-ray is not a Sony format, if anything its Panasonic as they own the most patents for Blu-ray.  Also  Sony had a part in making DVDs and CDs,  how did those formats turn out?


The way I understand it Sony lost big time with the DVD,  they had another format and it lost on multible fronts and they had to throw away years of research and accept the basics of the DVD. The CD isn't really a Sony format, I don't know the details but the way I remember it Sony played a part but most of the credits for the CD go to Philips. And I don't know what point has or hasnt been brought up because I'm not following this forum on a regular basis.

I don't know exactly how big Sony's part was in the DVD and CD but neither are truly from Sony. But you shouldn't forget the long list of formats that didn't make it, like the disc used by the old PSP. I'm not convinced by the Blu-Ray, it is slowly gaining marketshare but I think the majority of  the market has no plans to buy a Blu-Ray player at this point. By the time that the HDTV has spread to all four corners of the world then we are years further and nobody knows what other formats have seen the light at that point.



Around the Network
Grey21 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Grey21 said:
The difference between a Blu-Ray and a DVD are substantial but they are not issential. Having an old VCR wth its decreasing picture quality became unthinkable when the DVD market started to grow. Now there is nothing wrong with talking down on the Blu-Ray, infact many people think your cool when you say your saving money for important things. Saying that about the DVD would net you a dicussion about why the DVD is better then the VCR.

I think many families out there have no need or no momney for Blu-Ray + HDTV. Students and some rich folk can find the time or the need but Blu-Ray's width spread succes will have to wait a few more years. It could be that by then another (cheaper) competitor has shown himself to take the cake. Afterall none of Sony's formats has ever been a succes, it's like they are cursed.

Wow well for one,  that point has been brought up and discussed many times in this thread,  no need to keep bringing it up.

Also Blu-ray is not a Sony format, if anything its Panasonic as they own the most patents for Blu-ray.  Also  Sony had a part in making DVDs and CDs,  how did those formats turn out?


The way I understand it Sony lost big time with the DVD,  they had another format and it lost on multible fronts and they had to throw away years of research and accept the basics of the DVD. The CD isn't really a Sony format, I don't know the details but the way I remember it Sony played a part but most of the credits for the CD go to Philips. And I don't know what point has or hasnt been brought up because I'm not following this forum on a regular basis.

I don't know exactly how big Sony's part was in the DVD and CD but neither are truly from Sony. But you shouldn't forget the long list of formats that didn't make it, like the disc used by the old PSP. I'm not convinced by the Blu-Ray, it is slowly gaining marketshare but I think the majority of  the market has no plans to buy a Blu-Ray player at this point. By the time that the HDTV has spread to all four corners of the world then we are years further and nobody knows what other formats have seen the light at that point.

Well I think you understood wrong,  Sony actually refused to get involved in a format war at the time, and quickly adopted many of the ideas that Toshiba and others had come up with at the time for the DVD.  But Sony and Phillips both had ideas that have been implemented into DVD that are still used today, one being Dual Layer instead of Dual Sided as that is what their prototype had.   

And yes the CD is very much a Sony & Phillips product,  Sony actually showed the first prototypes for it,  followed by Phillips.  They then created a team of engineers together to come up with a standard,  which they did. 

If you want to get right down to it,  CD is more of Sony than Blu-ray is, and that is where your fault lies,  you are trying to line it up with Sony when it doesnt belong there. Are they apart of it,  Sure.   Are they a big part,  yes they are.   But are they the biggest?   NO, they are not.    Hell Microsoft has a part of Blu-ray, did you even know that?

Bringing up Sony's old failures for formats is childish, and doesnt have any bearing on how this will turn out. Phillips had the Laser Disc, but then shortly afterwards created the CD with Sony,  should we have sat back and said,  OMG there is no way I am going to trust them after that Laser Disc debacle!!!!!!   No because that is foolish.  UMD format for the PSP works for the PSP,  and while they had ambitions to broaden its use, they reeled back those ambitions when no one else picked up on it. 

 



@Grey21

Your attitude towards SONY is very immature and plain ignorant. It seems what u have posted here is a lack of real facts. Maybe your thoughts about SONY aren't truly yours, but instead read someone elses that has obviously mislead u, or your've been told to believe.

Facts;
SONY created the CD.
SONY & Phillips created DVD
SONY & Pioneer (amongst many others) created BD

A worthy company indeed who gets my utmost respect.



Playing and finishing games first>>>>>>>>>>Then talking!

Opinions are subjective and just like moods, can change.

TOP 12: Deus Ex, Shadow Man, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturn, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Metroid Prime, Zelda (series), Uncharted (series), FF Tactics, Persona (series), Demons Souls, Vagrant Story.

MOST WANTED: Deus Ex: Human Revolution, The Last Guardian, ICO/Shadow OTC HD

A very good way to tell how healthy BD is is to see how many niche, independent, international and older classics being released. With films like these, it tells me BD is here to stay, cause if it's not selling it wouldn't get a release, would it!

Hardware
INK
Sleep Dealer
Run Lola, Run
Dario Argeto's (Giallo) Films
Paul Naschy (retro Spanash horror) Films
Vampyres
Kwaidan - Criterion Collection
Kagemusha - Criterion Collection
Yojimbo & Sanjuro - Criterion Collection
The Blind Swordsman: Zatoich
Ran
The Last Emperor - Criterion Collection
Classic Shaw Brothers (Kung-fu) films
The Legend of Drunken Master
Fallen Angels
Django
The Boondock Saints
Assault on Precinct 13 (1977 original)
The Stepfather (original)
Night of the Creeps
The Living Dead at Manchester Morge
Blood Ties: The Complete Series

These are not mass market titles, which means BD is very healthy. The rate that they are being released too is phenominal and it seems that most movies that are on DVD are getting, or will get the BDHD treatment.



Playing and finishing games first>>>>>>>>>>Then talking!

Opinions are subjective and just like moods, can change.

TOP 12: Deus Ex, Shadow Man, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturn, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Metroid Prime, Zelda (series), Uncharted (series), FF Tactics, Persona (series), Demons Souls, Vagrant Story.

MOST WANTED: Deus Ex: Human Revolution, The Last Guardian, ICO/Shadow OTC HD

HanzoTheRazor said:
@Grey21

Your attitude towards SONY is very immature and plain ignorant. It seems what u have posted here is a lack of real facts. Maybe your thoughts about SONY aren't truly yours, but instead read someone elses that has obviously mislead u, or your've been told to believe.

Facts;
SONY created the CD.
SONY & Phillips created DVD
SONY & Pioneer (amongst many others) created BD

A worthy company indeed who gets my utmost respect.


Well just to help you out a little,  its actually

Sony & Phillips created the CD
Toshiba, Sony and Phillips created the DVD
Panasonic, Sony and Pioneer (amongst many others) created the BD

You were correct on Blu-ray but being Panasonic has been one of the main driving forces of Blu-ray I felt there name deserved a mention.



i'll start buying and renting movies on blu-ray when the prices drop. They're more expensive and rentals are like 6 bucks instead of 5.