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eva01beserk said:
Metroid33slayer said:
Well of course they do, They want the tax payer to fund their worthless degree's in man hating and entiltlement stud... cough, i mean gender studies.

Dont forget also white hating.

Yeah and most of the peope promoting white hatred are white themselves mainly privileaged white SJW rich kids that want the extinction of their own race. Well they can start by throwing themselves in front of a truck.



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Metroid33slayer said:
eva01beserk said:

Dont forget also white hating.

Yeah and most of the peope promoting white hatred are white themselves mainly privileaged white SJW rich kids that want the extinction of their own race. Well they can start by throwing themselves in front of a truck.

I don't promote white hatred, I promote anti-racism and anti-white supremacy.



They're right.



VGPolyglot said:
Metroid33slayer said:

Yeah and most of the peope promoting white hatred are white themselves mainly privileaged white SJW rich kids that want the extinction of their own race. Well they can start by throwing themselves in front of a truck.

I don't promote white hatred, I promote anti-racism and anti-white supremacy.

White supremacy lol, you've been indoctrinated if you even entertain the idea. Tell me one just one right a white person has that a black person doesn't in your country, scrap that how about any industralized country.



Metroid33slayer said:
eva01beserk said:

Dont forget also white hating.

Yeah and most of the peope promoting white hatred are white themselves mainly privileaged white SJW rich kids that want the extinction of their own race. Well they can start by throwing themselves in front of a truck.

Metroid33splayer Please.

It doesnt matter if White people become extinct its just a label.



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Metroid33slayer said:
VGPolyglot said:

I don't promote white hatred, I promote anti-racism and anti-white supremacy.

White supremacy lol, you've been indoctrinated if you even entertain the idea. Tell me one just one right a white person has that a black person doesn't in your country, scrap that how about any industralized country.

Yeah, I guess in theory they have the same rights, but we all know that in practice that's not the case. Whites are disproportionately better off.



spurgeonryan said:

But, they are not. I wonder what North Korea could possibly accomplish with anything? Just getting a missle across the Pacific would be a major undertaking in itself. They would need help.

North Korea is actually a big problem. They aren't a threat in the sense that they could do a lot of damage to the US. However, they could land a lucky nuclear strike against a minor US target or a supercarrier. That would demand a massive response from the US and could result in tensions with China.

China supports North Korea because otherwise they would have a US-allied Korea with american military bases right in their backyard. And they don't want to lose that, so even if NK was liberated, I wouldn't be surprised if China intended to replace the current system with a puppet president. That would result in conflicts with the US, and neither country want that kind of hassle.

If the US enters on a conflict with NK, the Kim Jong-un could opt for nuclear strikes against US allies, like South Korea or Japan. Heavy civilian losses for US allies because of a conflict between the US and someone else would have disastrous results for your external politics (like "hey, US can't defend their allies").

My point is that NK obviously can't defeat or even do more than a scratch on the US (and that is with a lot of luck). But they can "die shooting", severly damaging US allies. That could make the US lose allies and end up with a much weaker global position. A diplomatic problem with China could bring economic issues. That's the problems with the NK situation: the best case for the US is minimal or zero gain, while the worst case scenarios would be a big PITA.



torok said:
spurgeonryan said:

But, they are not. I wonder what North Korea could possibly accomplish with anything? Just getting a missle across the Pacific would be a major undertaking in itself. They would need help.

North Korea is actually a big problem. They aren't a threat in the sense that they could do a lot of damage to the US. However, they could land a lucky nuclear strike against a minor US target or a supercarrier. That would demand a massive response from the US and could result in tensions with China.

China supports North Korea because otherwise they would have a US-allied Korea with american military bases right in their backyard. And they don't want to lose that, so even if NK was liberated, I wouldn't be surprised if China intended to replace the current system with a puppet president. That would result in conflicts with the US, and neither country want that kind of hassle.

If the US enters on a conflict with NK, the Kim Jong-un could opt for nuclear strikes against US allies, like South Korea or Japan. Heavy civilian losses for US allies because of a conflict between the US and someone else would have disastrous results for your external politics (like "hey, US can't defend their allies").

My point is that NK obviously can't defeat or even do more than a scratch on the US (and that is with a lot of luck). But they can "die shooting", severly damaging US allies. That could make the US lose allies and end up with a much weaker global position. A diplomatic problem with China could bring economic issues. That's the problems with the NK situation: the best case for the US is minimal or zero gain, while the worst case scenarios would be a big PITA.

China doesn't just want North Korea to stay because they don't want a US-backed Korea, they are also afraid of the massive refugee influx that'd occur if the government collapsed.



VGPolyglot said:

China doesn't just want North Korea to stay because they don't want a US-backed Korea, they are also afraid of the massive refugee influx that'd occur if the government collapsed.

I agree, that's another good reason for them to backup Kim. I would say that this probably will make them want to put a puppet ruling NK if the situation gets unsustainable. Anyway, they surely prefer to have Jong-un there because they don't have to worry about any of that. A puppet would demand at least some kind of burocratic control and they would hate to play babysitter with a population of a whole country. But between that and letting the US control the region, they would surely choose the aforementioned situation.

Of course, it would be another government that would violate civil rights, but hey, China does that all the time. And it would still look like an improvement compared to the current situation.



Finally Millennials actually do worry about something serious.