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That's backwards logic at it's best right there. Exclusives are the main reason why gamers choose one platform over the other. That's a fact. MS has likely lost interest in competing in the console gaming market. The only reason why MS would put it's xbox (devaluing the console) exclusives on win 10 is to incentivise people into getting win 10/using windows store to compete with steam. It's not a benefit at all for consumers because games bought from windows store can't be modded. PC gamers won't touch windows store because of that. /thread



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So it's a good thing that I have zero concrete reasons to buy an Xbox over a Steam Link?



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Yes sure, platform holders should not make games anymore because this is unfair to people who buy other platforms?

How would a platform holdr have any expertise in making the platform any good? And who would handle the risk of making games to fill apparent gaps in game types on their platform?

Nintendo and sony make the games that define their platforms the most, both very differently and they bring pretty high quality content in their own therms, they make their respective platform unique with relevant titles for their audience.

MS wouldnt do that anyway, so they may as well keep going the forza/halo/gears in the holiday recepy that serve them so well... oh whait, they hold the least selling of he 3 main platforms now.

However everything would release in a future proof format, on PC (however not windows store as this is just like putting the game on another console, locked in entirely... users have zero way to make it work again if it becomes incompatible with the latest windows).

Those who see ms as benevolant in "saving" us from buying another box are just not getting what they are being led into, you would just not get any of those games either way, because the whole approach a platform holder takes when choosing which titles they will publish and which titles they wont is entirely different than ubisoft or ea way of minimizing risk.

Anyhow, it doesnt serve me if games all show up on pc some day, the experience on tv is just not interesting, i use it for rts and fps thats it.



Pemalite said:
Errorist76 said:

Just confirming my stance that I had since 2 gens already, PC + PlayStation is the perfect combination.

It's great for PC gamers all XBox titles are now on PC. Just don't pretend it does XBox any favours.

Sadly the Windows Store exclusivity just hurts them as I mostly refuse to use this overpriced DRM shit. Just put it on Steam already.

Switch is the perfect complement.

I wouldn't say the Playstation+PC is the perfect combination...

The Playstation gets more exclusives than Xbox, sure. But there is a massive chunk of the Playstation 4's library that is on PC as well.
And this generation seems to be the worst for it... More games are simply coming to PC, even japanese games.

The Switch doesn't really have a games library at the moment. But if it is anything like Nintendo's past consoles, it's exclusive to multiplatform ratio's will be a little more favourable, mostly thanks to it's inferior hardware not being an attractive proposition for multiplats.

The point of PS4+PC is it has the best spread of available titles for home platforms. Yes, there are a number of games on PS4 that are also on PC, but there is a much larger number of games exclusively on PS4 than there are on Xbox One. It becomes a matter of "Is Halo 5 really worth more than Uncharted 4, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Bloodborne, NioH, inFAMOUS Second Son, and The Last Guardian combined?"

 

A PC + a platform with 20 worthwhile exclusives is better than a PC + a platform with 3 worthwhile exclusives.

 

As a side note, though, PC/PS4 still needs the added bonus of a 3DS to get the absolute best coverage on games.



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Azuren said:

The point of PS4+PC is it has the best spread of available titles for home platforms. Yes, there are a number of games on PS4 that are also on PC, but there is a much larger number of games exclusively on PS4 than there are on Xbox One. It becomes a matter of "Is Halo 5 really worth more than Uncharted 4, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Bloodborne, NioH, inFAMOUS Second Son, and The Last Guardian combined?"

 

A PC + a platform with 20 worthwhile exclusives is better than a PC + a platform with 3 worthwhile exclusives.

 

As a side note, though, PC/PS4 still needs the added bonus of a 3DS to get the absolute best coverage on games.

I think you are missing the point. It doesn't matter how much more exclusives there are on Playstation 4 verses the Xbox One.
It still shares the bulk of it's Library with the PC.

So if you *truly* wish to have the best "spread" of available titles... (Your words, not mine.)

Then you need:
PC+Nintendo.
Sony+Nintendo.
Or.
Microsoft+Nintendo.

It doesn't make sense to have PC+Xbox or PC+Playstation if "spread" is your main issue.
Regardless. You could just get them all. Brand loyalty is bullshit anyway.

That isn't to say Sony doesn't have a ton of exclusives, it has some of the best exclusives this generation, but the majority of it's library is on PC, because the majority of it's library is multiplats.
It's less of an issue for Sony than Microsoft though, thus Microsoft deserves the criticism it gets.

I could live without both the Xbox and Playstation rather easily. I choose not to because... I like games.



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I sense some spin here. This new direction isn't because Microsoft is gamer friendly. Their console is getting thumped and they wanna withdraw from the race so to speak. All these smiley-faced pressers and praising the competition are a far cry from 7 years ago.



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Pemalite said:
Azuren said:

The point of PS4+PC is it has the best spread of available titles for home platforms. Yes, there are a number of games on PS4 that are also on PC, but there is a much larger number of games exclusively on PS4 than there are on Xbox One. It becomes a matter of "Is Halo 5 really worth more than Uncharted 4, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Bloodborne, NioH, inFAMOUS Second Son, and The Last Guardian combined?"

 

A PC + a platform with 20 worthwhile exclusives is better than a PC + a platform with 3 worthwhile exclusives.

 

As a side note, though, PC/PS4 still needs the added bonus of a 3DS to get the absolute best coverage on games.

I think you are missing the point. It doesn't matter how much more exclusives there are on Playstation 4 verses the Xbox One.
It still shares the bulk of it's Library with the PC.

So if you *truly* wish to have the best "spread" of available titles... (Your words, not mine.)

Then you need:
PC+Nintendo.
Sony+Nintendo.
Or.
Microsoft+Nintendo.

It doesn't make sense to have PC+Xbox or PC+Playstation if "spread" is your main issue.
Regardless. You could just get them all. Brand loyalty is bullshit anyway.

That isn't to say Sony doesn't have a ton of exclusives, it has some of the best exclusives this generation, but the majority of it's library is on PC, because the majority of it's library is multiplats.
It's less of an issue for Sony than Microsoft though, thus Microsoft deserves the criticism it gets.

I could live without both the Xbox and Playstation rather easily. I choose not to because... I like games.

Sonys exclusives are the gateway between the west and the east. One of the least friendly places to get jrpg ports these days. Most of my PC friends who love anime have PlayStation and Nintendo for that reason. They find Xbox to be redundant because it makes no bones about the fact the Xbox one is a is a steam box for their PC endeavors. Microsoft is making it so soon you won't need an Xbox if you don't want it. All you have to do is get an elite controller and invest in Windows 10. That's the real goal... what they've always wanted to do.



4k1x3r said:
KLAMarine said:

I often come across the complaint that many XBox 1 games that would have otherwise been exclusives are also put on PC thus rendering them non-exclusives and I'm wondering why people complain?

Does a game being available on more than one platform not make it more readily available to people thus benefiting the consumer? Is the ability to play a game on more than one configuration not a good thing? PS4 and Switch exclusives can only be played on their respective platforms but with XBox1/PC, you have more choice.

Online gaming on PC is free last I checked so you don't even need to pay a subscription fee to play these games online. Microsoft undermines their own efforts to charge for online multiplayer by making their otherwise-XBox 1 exclusive games also available on PC.

Already got a gaming PC? Great! No need to buy an XBox 1 and we the consumers win but I cannot recall any time wherein Microsoft has received rightful praise for their pro-consumer policy of making their software available on XBox 1 AND PC rather than just locking their software to one box.

 

What's the deal with people complaining instead of praising?

It's not just people being mad that the games can be played on pc

Which is silly because the alternative, the game not being playable on PC AT ALL, is worse.

4k1x3r said:

it's the sheer number of exclusives that is flat out underwhelming AND the few that are available are not really exclusives.

A game is a game regardless of whether or not it's exclusive.

Aeolus451 said:
That's backwards logic at it's best right there. Exclusives are the main reason why gamers choose one platform over the other. That's a fact.

When you say that, I think back to how some of the best-selling titles on 360 and PS3 were the same games. I also think of the exclusive games on the WiiU and yet the WiiU sold poorly.

Aeolus451 said:
MS has likely lost interest in competing in the console gaming market. The only reason why MS would put it's xbox (devaluing the console) exclusives on win 10 is to incentivise people into getting win 10/using windows store to compete with steam. It's not a benefit at all for consumers because games bought from windows store can't be modded. PC gamers won't touch windows store because of that. /thread

Be that as it may, the alternative, X1 games not being playable on PC AT ALL, is worse.



KLAMarine said:


4k1x3r said:

it's the sheer number of exclusives that is flat out underwhelming AND the few that are available are not really exclusives.

A game is a game regardless of whether or not it's exclusive.

Yea but you're thinking rationally here, fanboys generally don't, they're driven by emotions.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft lowered the standard in first party development in the console industry. The don't operate traditionally like a competent console maker. It's influencing a new generation of gamer who will learn to not care for individuality and competiton and that creatively can only hurt the industry instead of help it. Honestly, Microsoft did a lot helping with online but the only way they could possibly compete is by buying ips rather than making them. This is why their library is weak. Outside of simulation there is no objective to creativity and quality. There is no identity.

lol no offense but what a load of crap. What industry do you game in? Microsoft has never "won" a gen and there's plenty of creativity and competition and "individuality" in gaming. Though I gotta say, it's funny to see how apparently MS limits individuality by being.... unique.