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Microsoft is deserving of praise, not criticism, for XBox 1 not having many exclusives

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I think it's great. I buy their games on Steam. No need for a Xbox.

Except when they try to force Windows Store. This will never work...



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twintail said:
KLAMarine said:

What's the deal with people complaining instead of praising?

Because their Play Anywhere scheme forces me to have to buy games on the Windows store and not through Steam.

Nothing to praise about that.

 

At least the PS4/ PC games are on steam, making even something like cross play way superior. 

According to https://news.xbox.com/2016/09/15/everything-you-need-to-know-about-xbox-play-anywhere/ , "When you buy an Xbox Play Anywhere digital game through the Xbox Store or the Windows Store, it’s yours to play on both Xbox One and Windows 10 PC at no additional cost ". Sounds to me like the XBox store is a valid alternative to the Windows store.



KLAMarine said:
twintail said:

Because their Play Anywhere scheme forces me to have to buy games on the Windows store and not through Steam.

Nothing to praise about that.

 

At least the PS4/ PC games are on steam, making even something like cross play way superior. 

According to https://news.xbox.com/2016/09/15/everything-you-need-to-know-about-xbox-play-anywhere/ , "When you buy an Xbox Play Anywhere digital game through the Xbox Store or the Windows Store, it’s yours to play on both Xbox One and Windows 10 PC at no additional cost ". Sounds to me like the XBox store is a valid alternative to the Windows store.

The benefit is i get 2 versions? 

Your OP states it's a benefit that you don't need an X1.

having no compatibility with steam is the issue for me 



twintail said:
KLAMarine said:

According to https://news.xbox.com/2016/09/15/everything-you-need-to-know-about-xbox-play-anywhere/ , "When you buy an Xbox Play Anywhere digital game through the Xbox Store or the Windows Store, it’s yours to play on both Xbox One and Windows 10 PC at no additional cost ". Sounds to me like the XBox store is a valid alternative to the Windows store.

The benefit is i get 2 versions? 

Your OP states it's a benefit that you don't need an X1.

having no compatibility with steam is the issue for me 

Well then hopefully Microsoft's attempts to bring what would otherwise be X1 exclusives to PC will ultimately either make them fix the Windows Store or bring the games to Steam. Ideally both.



theprof00 said:
Yeah you're right. Microsoft should be praised. I can play all their games on PC now, they saved me having to buy an xbox.
Thanks MS

Although I'm getting a One X, this is very much my view as well. Without a clan of folks, I'd have no need for an Xbox this generation. I have a grand total of 3 physical games for the One I currently have and, as it stands, all future In-House Microsoft Studios titles are headed to PC. 

Criticism? Praise? I don't chase either term. I just know that I don't have many reasons left to own an Xbox. Whether that's good or bad remains to be seen.



                                                                                                                                            

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KLAMarine said:

I often come across the complaint that many XBox 1 games that would have otherwise been exclusives are also put on PC thus rendering them non-exclusives and I'm wondering why people complain?

Does a game being available on more than one platform not make it more readily available to people thus benefiting the consumer? Is the abilty to play a game on more than one configuration not a good thing? PS4 and Switch exclusives can only be played on their respective platforms but with XBox1/PC, you have more choice.

Online gaming on PC is free last I checked so you don't even need to pay a subscription fee to play these games online. Microsoft undermines their own efforts to charge for online multiplayer by making their otherwise-XBox 1 exclusive games also available on PC.

Already got a gaming PC? Great! No need to buy an XBox 1 and we the consumers win but I cannot recall any time wherein Microsoft has received rightful praise for their pro-consumer policy of making their software available on XBox 1 AND PC rather than just locking their software to one box.

 

What's the deal with people complaining instead of praising?

Surely it depends on the context of the discussion as to whether it should be praised or criticised.

If you are talking about accessibility of games, then obviously the more platforms a game is on the better, so praise be to Microsoft.

If you are talking about the future success of Xbox hardware, then a lack of true Xbox exclusives is surely a point of criticism that puts the Xbox hardware brand on a less secure footing. So boo Microsoft, I guess.

If you are talking about what's best for Microsoft revenue and profits, it's likely that maximising the games available on Windows PC is better for MS. The increased access to 3rd party games on Linux and Mac (with Steam being on both OS's now) is a bigger threat to MS's future revenue and profits than PS or Nintendo hardware ever will be. MS has a substantial financial interest in putting games on Windows PC that are not available on Linux or Mac. So, if you are a MS shareholder then praise be MS here too.

I wonder how much it would screw with MS if Sony started making its library available exclusively on Linux PCs. I guess also look out for Apple being about to buy Sony if PS games start appearing on the MAC.



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Because console warz



The OP is actually correct. Consumers being locked out of content basically because of their platform choice is anti-consumer in the end. But I don't expect the "console warz" crowd to agree.



Just confirming my stance that I had since 2 gens already, PC + PlayStation is the perfect combination.

It's great for PC gamers all XBox titles are now on PC. Just don't pretend it does XBox any favours.

Sadly the Windows Store exclusivity just hurts them as I mostly refuse to use this overpriced DRM shit. Just put it on Steam already.

Switch is the perfect complement.



While I definitely think that Microsoft's efforts to bring their games to PC is great for consumers (choice is always a good thing), I do think there's a valid complaint still lingering about the quantity and quality of MS's first party offerings. When I buy a console, I tend to do so with the expectation that, in return for spending a lot of money on a fairly narrow-scoped machine, I'm going to be well served by the platform holder. I want the platform holder to do absolutely everything in its power to give me the very best offering it can to keep that platform interesting, strong, and alive with content.

I really do think MS tries its very best to make this happen, but if I owned an Xbox I'm not convinced I'd be satisfied with what MS does to return the favor. They're not bursting with the internal development variety that Sony has, and while that used to be okay when games were cheaper to produce and MS could broker better deals with external companies to guarantee a strong lineup that wouldn't exist without their support, both the cost of development and the fact that Xbox One represents such a small fraction of the marketplace means it's getting harder and harder to serve their audience in the way they used to.

By god, MS is trying, but it seems like all of its major franchises are waning (with Forza as a major exception of course) under the studio structure it set up after Bungie and Epic went separate ways. Sony has complete ownership of most of the studios that have always made its biggest franchises (again, with exceptions) and seems to allow them greater artistic flexibility. Sony's studio structure certainly has flaws too, but at least it guarantees that Sony will always be fronting development specifically for its audience, making a PS4 a safer bet for a stronger lineup. Just my thoughts at least, as an ex-Xbox fan that jumped ship around the Kinect era.