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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 06 July 2017
Saeko said:
Captain_Yuri said:
Here's a question since we are sorta on topic. How many people on vgc even have a gaming PC? Cause Forza horizon 3 isn't exactly gonna run on a toaster even on low settings...

I can my new PC have a 1080 TI, but whatever you right not everyone have a good pc for run forza horizons 3, but not everyone like racing game either.

It was just an example... Another example is gears of war 4...



                  

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GOWTLOZ on 06 July 2017

Xbox games coming to PC is a great thing for consumers but not for Xbox.

Anyways I'd like Microsoft to bring Forza Horizon 2 on PC and do a better job at optimising it, as Forza Horizon 3 is an incredible game that is difficult to run on any reasonably priced PC and now that I play on a laptop with 1050 instead of my PC with 1070 that makes a huge difference to me.



WagnerPaiva on 06 July 2017

thanks MS...



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archer9234 on 06 July 2017
Aeolus451 said:
KLAMarine said:

No, I meant Win 10 gamers. You asked "Who really cares if X1 games are playable on win 10 or not" (I'm assuming this was a question despite not having a '?' at the end) and I answered the obvious answer: Win 10 gamers.

But the games in question don't then become unplayable on XBox 1 just because they've been ported to PC. What value is being lost?

Nice additional option to have regardless.

Here's to Microsoft becoming more competitive against Steam in the near future.

Yeah. Should help make the decision to whether or not to buy an X1 easier.

But the games in question don't then become unplayable on XBox 1 just because they've been ported to PC. What value is being lost?

Xbox loses it's value to consumers because there's nothing exclusive to that console so in other words, a consumer can buy a PS4 and upgrade their pc if they really want to play one or two xbox games, they won't be missing out on anything. 

 

No it doesn't. You will never have 100% of people using a PC for gaming. Or abandon a brand they love. That's where the brand is safe. What they do lose is people like me. I want one game series made by them. I won't buy the console regardless. If the series was avaible on PC (not exculsive to the windows 10 store) They got my $120 from Halo MC and 5. Instead they get $0 period. I ignore MS products 100%. Since they ignored me after Halo 2.



derpysquirtle64 on 06 July 2017
KLAMarine said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

One of the main problems here is that MS Play Anywhere program doesn't work like it should be. You still have a lot of differences between XB1 and PC versions of games. The majority of PA games doesn't have cross-play or cross-save. So, what's good in splitting the userbase between two platforms. When the program was announced it sounded good in theory but MS seems to have failed to achieve what they were expected to. Also, they release some games on Steam and this versions doesn't use XBL for online play at all splitting user base even further. Now between three different platforms. I think that people doesn't praise them because it all looks like MS is just being desperate for a quick buck instead of thinking about the future of their gaming platform.

I don't think I was discussing Play Anywhere in my opening post...

Yes, you wasn't. I've just stated that Play Anywhere not working right is a bad thing for Xbox future. So, that's why MS can't be praised for Xbox One not having many exclusives. It's a good thing from PC gamer's perspective because they are the ones who benefit from this. Console gamers on the other hand are losing.



 

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Seventizz on 06 July 2017

Everyone keeps touting the playstation brand is the best because of all those exclusives. But what if you don't like japanese gaming or games that prioritize story over gameplay? And online gaming? It's not even a contest of which brand has that on lock.

I'm an Xbox gamer. And that's fine.



TheBlackNaruto on 06 July 2017
Seventizz said:
Everyone keeps touting the playstation brand is the best because of all those exclusives. But what if you don't like japanese gaming or games that prioritize story over gameplay? And online gaming? It's not even a contest of which brand has that on lock.

I'm an Xbox gamer. And that's fine.

What brand has that on lock when it comes to exclusives that it's not even a contest? 

But I do agree it is fine that you are an Xbox gamer. I personally am a Sony/MS guy.....Nintendo is cool here and there as well. Still think the 64 was their best console followed by the gamecube......did not like the Wii or Wii U at all. But my order Sony then MS then Nin.



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Seventizz on 06 July 2017
What brand has that on lock when it comes to exclusives that it's not even a contest?

 

What good is an exclusive if you won't buy it?  It's a non issue.



S.T.A.G.E. on 06 July 2017
Seventizz said:
Everyone keeps touting the playstation brand is the best because of all those exclusives. But what if you don't like japanese gaming or games that prioritize story over gameplay? And online gaming? It's not even a contest of which brand has that on lock.

I'm an Xbox gamer. And that's fine.

Xbox has what on lock? Online gaming is no longer something to tout. Halo and gears are acquisitions, not games they can actually make.



Pemalite on 07 July 2017
Lauster said:

Sony has its wrongs, I don't say otherwise but I think "anti-consumer" is not the good term because it's not an action desired or controlled by them, or else all companies are thus anti-consumers. Each of them can be (or is already) compromised.

I disagree. Sony had it's network vulnerable. It had users information stored vulnerably.
And that is contempt for it's userbase. It was unacceptable, a massive multi-billion dollar tech company should have known better.

Lauster said:

Maybe it could had been a 100% software-based BC (more than just the EE replaced with software for PAL version), but that was not the solution Sony chosen at this time. You said it yourself, they were pretty convinced by the success of their system ("too expensive for you ? Just get a second job !") and they had to react when they had to face reality. Maintain a top tier offer that already proved that it doesn't sell while you're bleeding money ? Well, good luck with that !
Your "if" and "could" aren't a solution too when you have to quickly react. But all of this is only conjectures, the most important for qualifying if it's anti-consumer or not is : What did consumers were expecting most ? a lower price or a feature 80%-90% of them have nothing to do ? hint : see the sales


That just an excuse. Not a solution. I never stated Sony should do *anything*. Just provided examples to reinforce the fact that there are solutions to excuses.
And if they do not provide adequate solutions, then they open themselves up for criticism. No need to be apologetic towards them.

Lauster said:

I don't make excuses for Sony

You have constantly made them in this discussion.


Lauster said:

When you know your arm is gangrened, you cut your arm (and Linux was more a small toe than an arm for the majority of consumers, and I'm still generous).

Poor analogy.
If you can cure your arm that has gangrene, you try and cure it. Not cut it off.

Technology is also not biology.



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