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AngryLittleAlchemist on 22 July 2017
JRPGfan said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

How the heck is it offensive? The only thing I can think of is her outfit.

Her outfit is part of her charm :) its a part of what makes her bayonetta... Her personality fits her clothes too (its in character).

It would be weird if they made a 3rd one, but changed that.

Also how the heck is being sexy offensive?

Woah woah woah ... IM not against her outfit! I love it(and personally...Bayonetta isn't my type anyways, so I don't "get" the fanservice as much as most people probably do) but that's the only part of the game i've seen people get offended at. Their was a reviewer that got upset with the game for the fanservice. I don't think being sexy is offensive, but some people simply get overly offensive



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Magnus on 22 July 2017
NoirSon said:
Magnus said:

PS2 and PS3 had massive libraries and tons of games weren't ported. Most Master System games weren't ported either. It's fine to port games, but a Nintendo system without an exclusive Zelda or an exclusive Mario Kart is garbage. And only companies with no business making games make bad consoles. They should have axed the Wii U right after launch but instead they lied to people promising actual support.

The while the library of games will end up quite small, the vast majority of Wii U games aren't going to be ported either. But just because a system failed does that mean its games should regulated to after thoughts of history even if they don't have to? The Dreamcast failed but most people enjoyed being able to get some of the nicer games for that platform on another console. In comparison the Saturn failed and most never have gotten the opportunity to play some of the classics on that system and would love to see them moved to another device.

So far we have Breath of the Wild, which is getting the same treatment as Twilight Princess and the GC - Wii launch got, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, which is getting all the previous DLC plus a few new features such as the splatoon kids and Pokken Tournament, which is getting the arcade updates that were never added to the original home release. They tried to make it work for 3.5 years but could not do it, they thought the 3rd party support would help pick things up, it didn't and so they brought out a successor.

They did the same thing with Game Boy Color, which life was shorten so they could release the GBA to stay competitive with handhelds that came out in Japan. Same thing happened to the GBA for the DS which had a shorter run then it probably was intended to so they could compete on a closer playing field with the PSP. The Switch was done because they really needed to stay competitive and despite a good run with the Wii they were still having trouble doing so on their home consoles because of lack of third party support. So merge home and handheld together and hope to inherit all the 3DS and Vita market that is more valuable in Japan and home to indie titles that can help flesh out the calander. As a Wii U owner it does sort of suck but it is part of business and literally every company that releases hardware would do the same.

 

All other Nintendo systems (except the Virtual Boy, which was an experiment) had an exclusive Zelda, and all Nintendo home consoles since the SNES had an exclusive Mario Kart. GBC and GBA had an exclusive Zelda, and GBC had an exclusive Mario Kart and a much better library than Wii U. The very fact that the Wii U doesn't makes that console a piece of shit, and therefore Nintendo as a whole is shit. You cannot compare it to any other Nintendo system, this is the first time Nintendo makes a shitty system with hardly any exclusives and which will be remembered as a piece of shit because everyone got to play its games on Switch. The moment they decided to keep supporting the Wii U in 2013 is the moment they committed to support the system like every other Nintendo system, that means an exclusive Mario Kart and an exclusive Zelda REGARDLESS OF SALES. The way Nintendo treated Wii U customers is inexcusable. What any other company should have done would be either pull the system out of the market right after launch or support it properly, not pretend to support it and then shit on everyone who bought it.

And most Wii U games that didn't get ported are shitty ports of multiplatform titles. People bought the Wii U for exclusives, so those exclusives are the only games that count on the Wii U library. Take out every Wii U game that is multiplatform or ported to 3DS or Switch and pretend they don't exist and then you will realize Nintendo turned into shit. Iwata promised Wii U would be Gamecube 2, instead they turned the whole company into shit.

I'm fed up of people, specially Nintendo fans, who defend Nintendo's treatment of the Wii U. The Gamecube failed but it still had an exclusive Mario Kart and an exclusive Zelda, and the vast mayority of Nintendo's games on Gamecube were never ported to other platforms. That is why the Gamecube was such a great console and why Nintendo kept their reputation intact. Iwata promised to do the same with Wii U, then they shat on everyone and their own history by giving the Wii U such a shit support. When the Wii U only has Mario, Pikmin and shitty games nobody cares about as actual exclusives, that makes the entire company a piece of shit. Nintendo fans should be abandoning Nintendo like Sega fans abandoned Sega so Nintendo can stop ripping off customers with shit platforms they can't guarantee support, instead they support Nintendo's scamming of Wii U owners.



NoirSon on 23 July 2017

@Magnus  I am going to disagree with you in a few places.

First, no Nintendo customer that I am aware of ever gets a contract stating these games are a lock for being exclusive to a Nintendo consoles. It is a expected but it isn't a guarantee and shouldn't be held as such.

Next, I am going to be that guy. Your idea of exclusives don't work with a few of your examples, Mario Kart was never on the GB or GBC, it his the GBA for its first portable outing. IF we count the GBC as a seperate system from the original GB, by your logic then the Gameboy never had a exclusive Zelda game due to Link's Awakening DX. The GC is in the same boat not only due to Twilight Princess but Wind Waker being ported to the Wii U or the various third party games that wound up on other consoles later but Nintendo's own 'New Play Control' series that ported both Metroid Prime games and the Pikmin titles to the Wii. And even back in the 90s the distance between the NA release of Super Mario 3 and Super Mario All star was only three years, never mind the alternate version they released later that included Super Mario World. The idea that Nintendo is doing something they have never done with porting games from the Wii U to Switch doesn't make sense given they do this often in their history. May not be in as short of a time period but never has never had a major system fail this badly as the Wii U.

The lack of a console exclusive Zelda game besides spinoffs does suck, but can you really name one Switch port by Nintendo besides Breath of the Wild which is just the previous game where they didn't make any changes or improvements that people wouldn't want? People who bought the Wii U got the short end of the stick but if you are Wii U owner and didn't enjoy the system, you would have probably sold it by now and may not even trust the Switch with its good fortune at this point either. The Switch offers enough in its concept (along with promise of merging Nintendo's focus to one platform in the future for both handheld and console titles) and the stellar games, ports or not, that the system is being  well received. One mistake or failure doesn't destroy a company that has been cranking out quality for as long as Nintendo has. Not counting their struggles with their devices in the 80s before striking gold with the Genesis/Mega Drive, It took multiple failed Sega add ons, the Saturn and the Dreamcast for Sega to drop out of the hardware game and even to this day not all of their fans have stopped buy their software. I can understand the frustration and anger but I think it is a waste to do so when dealing a company where profits have always been their main goal.



NoirSon on 23 July 2017

@Magnus  I am going to disagree with you in a few places.

First, no Nintendo customer that I am aware of ever gets a contract stating these games are a lock for being exclusive to a Nintendo consoles. It is a expected but it isn't a guarantee and shouldn't be held as such.

Next, I am going to be that guy. Your idea of exclusives don't work with a few of your examples, Mario Kart was never on the GB or GBC, it his the GBA for its first portable outing. IF we count the GBC as a seperate system from the original GB, by your logic then the Gameboy never had a exclusive Zelda game due to Link's Awakening DX. The GC is in the same boat not only due to Twilight Princess but Wind Waker being ported to the Wii U or the various third party games that wound up on other consoles later but Nintendo's own 'New Play Control' series that ported both Metroid Prime games and the Pikmin titles to the Wii. And even back in the 90s the distance between the NA release of Super Mario 3 and Super Mario All star was only three years, never mind the alternate version they released later that included Super Mario World. The idea that Nintendo is doing something they have never done with porting games from the Wii U to Switch doesn't make sense given they do this often in their history. May not be in as short of a time period but never has never had a major system fail this badly as the Wii U.

The lack of a console exclusive Zelda game besides spinoffs does suck, but can you really name one Switch port by Nintendo besides Breath of the Wild which is just the previous game where they didn't make any changes or improvements that people wouldn't want? People who bought the Wii U got the short end of the stick but if you are Wii U owner and didn't enjoy the system, you would have probably sold it by now and may not even trust the Switch with its good fortune at this point either. The Switch offers enough in its concept (along with promise of merging Nintendo's focus to one platform in the future for both handheld and console titles) and the stellar games, ports or not, that the system is being  well received. One mistake or failure doesn't destroy a company that has been cranking out quality for as long as Nintendo has. Not counting their struggles with their devices in the 80s before striking gold with the Genesis/Mega Drive, It took multiple failed Sega add ons, the Saturn and the Dreamcast for Sega to drop out of the hardware game and even to this day not all of their fans have stopped buy their software. I can understand the frustration and anger but I think it is a waste to do so when dealing a company where profits have always been their main goal.



Mr.GameCrazy on 23 July 2017
NoirSon said:

@Magnus  I am going to disagree with you in a few places.

First, no Nintendo customer that I am aware of ever gets a contract stating these games are a lock for being exclusive to a Nintendo consoles. It is a expected but it isn't a guarantee and shouldn't be held as such.

Next, I am going to be that guy. Your idea of exclusives don't work with a few of your examples, Mario Kart was never on the GB or GBC, it his the GBA for its first portable outing. IF we count the GBC as a seperate system from the original GB, by your logic then the Gameboy never had a exclusive Zelda game due to Link's Awakening DX. The GC is in the same boat not only due to Twilight Princess but Wind Waker being ported to the Wii U or the various third party games that wound up on other consoles later but Nintendo's own 'New Play Control' series that ported both Metroid Prime games and the Pikmin titles to the Wii. And even back in the 90s the distance between the NA release of Super Mario 3 and Super Mario All star was only three years, never mind the alternate version they released later that included Super Mario World. The idea that Nintendo is doing something they have never done with porting games from the Wii U to Switch doesn't make sense given they do this often in their history. May not be in as short of a time period but never has never had a major system fail this badly as the Wii U.

The lack of a console exclusive Zelda game besides spinoffs does suck, but can you really name one Switch port by Nintendo besides Breath of the Wild which is just the previous game where they didn't make any changes or improvements that people wouldn't want? People who bought the Wii U got the short end of the stick but if you are Wii U owner and didn't enjoy the system, you would have probably sold it by now and may not even trust the Switch with its good fortune at this point either. The Switch offers enough in its concept (along with promise of merging Nintendo's focus to one platform in the future for both handheld and console titles) and the stellar games, ports or not, that the system is being  well received. One mistake or failure doesn't destroy a company that has been cranking out quality for as long as Nintendo has. Not counting their struggles with their devices in the 80s before striking gold with the Genesis/Mega Drive, It took multiple failed Sega add ons, the Saturn and the Dreamcast for Sega to drop out of the hardware game and even to this day not all of their fans have stopped buy their software. I can understand the frustration and anger but I think it is a waste to do so when dealing a company where profits have always been their main goal.

I agree with what you said to Magnus. I personally think that his frustration with Nintendo is understandable, but I think he's being a bit ridiculous.



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Magnus on 23 July 2017
NoirSon said:

Next, I am going to be that guy. Your idea of exclusives don't work with a few of your examples, Mario Kart was never on the GB or GBC, it his the GBA for its first portable outing. IF we count the GBC as a seperate system from the original GB, by your logic then the Gameboy never had a exclusive Zelda game due to Link's Awakening DX. The GC is in the same boat not only due to Twilight Princess but Wind Waker being ported to the Wii U or the various third party games that wound up on other consoles later but Nintendo's own 'New Play Control' series that ported both Metroid Prime games and the Pikmin titles to the Wii. And even back in the 90s the distance between the NA release of Super Mario 3 and Super Mario All star was only three years, never mind the alternate version they released later that included Super Mario World. The idea that Nintendo is doing something they have never done with porting games from the Wii U to Switch doesn't make sense given they do this often in their history. May not be in as short of a time period but never has never had a major system fail this badly as the Wii U.

Wind Waker was ported to Wii U ten years after the original release, that time frame is long enough that it could be considered an exclusive. You could argue that the original Game Boy didn't have an exclusive Zelda, but Link's Awakening DX was released five years after the original release.

Mario Kart 8 DX and Pokken Tournament DX are still shitting on Wii U owners though, and the Wii U unlike the Gamecube will be remembered as a piece of shit which is why Nintendo can no longer be trusted to support a console and should go bankrupt.



Mbolibombo on 23 July 2017
Magnus said:
NoirSon said:

Next, I am going to be that guy. Your idea of exclusives don't work with a few of your examples, Mario Kart was never on the GB or GBC, it his the GBA for its first portable outing. IF we count the GBC as a seperate system from the original GB, by your logic then the Gameboy never had a exclusive Zelda game due to Link's Awakening DX. The GC is in the same boat not only due to Twilight Princess but Wind Waker being ported to the Wii U or the various third party games that wound up on other consoles later but Nintendo's own 'New Play Control' series that ported both Metroid Prime games and the Pikmin titles to the Wii. And even back in the 90s the distance between the NA release of Super Mario 3 and Super Mario All star was only three years, never mind the alternate version they released later that included Super Mario World. The idea that Nintendo is doing something they have never done with porting games from the Wii U to Switch doesn't make sense given they do this often in their history. May not be in as short of a time period but never has never had a major system fail this badly as the Wii U.

Wind Waker was ported to Wii U ten years after the original release, that time frame is long enough that it could be considered an exclusive. You could argue that the original Game Boy didn't have an exclusive Zelda, but Link's Awakening DX was released five years after the original release.

Mario Kart 8 DX and Pokken Tournament DX are still shitting on Wii U owners though, and the Wii U unlike the Gamecube will be remembered as a piece of shit which is why Nintendo can no longer be trusted to support a console and should go bankrupt.

How in any way does them being released on the Switch shit on Wii U owners? Seriously? It's not like it's being removed from the Wii U library or anything.

Seriously, you should stop it. You're like a child. Just because Wii U is losing it's exclusive games Nintendo should go bankrupt? Oh lord..



collint0101 on 23 July 2017
Magnus said:
NoirSon said:

Next, I am going to be that guy. Your idea of exclusives don't work with a few of your examples, Mario Kart was never on the GB or GBC, it his the GBA for its first portable outing. IF we count the GBC as a seperate system from the original GB, by your logic then the Gameboy never had a exclusive Zelda game due to Link's Awakening DX. The GC is in the same boat not only due to Twilight Princess but Wind Waker being ported to the Wii U or the various third party games that wound up on other consoles later but Nintendo's own 'New Play Control' series that ported both Metroid Prime games and the Pikmin titles to the Wii. And even back in the 90s the distance between the NA release of Super Mario 3 and Super Mario All star was only three years, never mind the alternate version they released later that included Super Mario World. The idea that Nintendo is doing something they have never done with porting games from the Wii U to Switch doesn't make sense given they do this often in their history. May not be in as short of a time period but never has never had a major system fail this badly as the Wii U.

Wind Waker was ported to Wii U ten years after the original release, that time frame is long enough that it could be considered an exclusive. You could argue that the original Game Boy didn't have an exclusive Zelda, but Link's Awakening DX was released five years after the original release.

Mario Kart 8 DX and Pokken Tournament DX are still shitting on Wii U owners though, and the Wii U unlike the Gamecube will be remembered as a piece of shit which is why Nintendo can no longer be trusted to support a console and should go bankrupt.

Jesus Christ you're making mountains out of ant hills. The fact that these games are getting ported to the switch doesn't take away from the fact that you got to enjoy them years ago on the Wii u. Exact same thing happened to the Dreamcast with the overwhelming majority of it's big games getting ported to the GameCube, ps2 and xbox but that doesn't keep people from saying it's a good console. I don't think the Wii u is as good as the Dreamcast but same thing applies, switch ports are suddenly going to devalue the time I put into pikmin, xenoblade, smash 4, TMS, or bayonetta 2



Miyamotoo on 24 July 2017
Magnus said:
Miyamotoo said:

So what!? Nobody rally cares because Zelda BotW and MK8D are ported to Switch, actually huge majority of people are happy because of that, that was very expected and logical move from Nintendo. Do you realise that you are only person here on site that keep bragging because Nintendo is porting Wii U games on Switch, because of that you act like they killed your family, chill out man.

People who bought a Wii U and Nintendo fans should care. By porting Zelda to Switch they shat on the Wii U owners and destroyed their legacy as a company that always made excellent consoles (and don't mention the Virtual Boy, it was just an experiment).

You are totally wrong, of course they did not "shat" on Wii U owners buy releasing Zelda BotW on Switch also, they would shat if they didn't release it at all on Wii U, if you didnt notice you are only person who is bragging here because Zelda BotW is ported to Switch. And of course they did not "destroyed their legacy as a company that always made excellent consoles" because of some Wii U ports for Switch, their hole history is full of ported games. And its not point only about Nintendo, this gen ports and remasters become standard, Sony ported around 10 PS3 games on PS4.

Like everyone already wrote to you, you are being ridiculous, you acting like angry child or like Nintendo killed your faimily beacuse they are porting some WIi U games to Switch (even its fact that even last few Nintendo hardwares alos had ports (Wii, Wii U, DS and 3DS), really, chill out man. 



160rmf on 24 July 2017

Magnus said:A

All other Nintendo systems (except the Virtual Boy, which was an experiment) had an exclusive Zelda, and all Nintendo home consoles since the SNES had an exclusive Mario Kart. GBC and GBA had an exclusive Zelda, and GBC had an exclusive Mario Kart and a much better library than Wii U. The very fact that the Wii U doesn't makes that console a piece of shit, and therefore Nintendo as a whole is shit. You cannot compare it to any other Nintendo system, this is the first time Nintendo makes a shitty system with hardly any exclusives and which will be remembered as a piece of shit because everyone got to play its games on Switch. The moment they decided to keep supporting the Wii U in 2013 is the moment they committed to support the system like every other Nintendo system, that means an exclusive Mario Kart and an exclusive Zelda REGARDLESS OF SALES. The way Nintendo treated Wii U customers is inexcusable. What any other company should have done would be either pull the system out of the market right after launch or support it properly, not pretend to support it and then shit on everyone who bought it.

And most Wii U games that didn't get ported are shitty ports of multiplatform titles. People bought the Wii U for exclusives, so those exclusives are the only games that count on the Wii U library. Take out every Wii U game that is multiplatform or ported to 3DS or Switch and pretend they don't exist and then you will realize Nintendo turned into shit. Iwata promised Wii U would be Gamecube 2, instead they turned the whole company into shit.

I'm fed up of people, specially Nintendo fans, who defend Nintendo's treatment of the Wii U. The Gamecube failed but it still had an exclusive Mario Kart and an exclusive Zelda, and the vast mayority of Nintendo's games on Gamecube were never ported to other platforms. That is why the Gamecube was such a great console and why Nintendo kept their reputation intact. Iwata promised to do the same with Wii U, then they shat on everyone and their own history by giving the Wii U such a shit support. When the Wii U only has Mario, Pikmin and shitty games nobody cares about as actual exclusives, that makes the entire company a piece of shit. Nintendo fans should be abandoning Nintendo like Sega fans abandoned Sega so Nintendo can stop ripping off customers with shit platforms they can't guarantee support, instead they support Nintendo's scamming of Wii U owners.

Talk about nitpicking.

So an exclusive Zelda and Mario kart is the water changer that makes an Nintendo device shit or not?

But Zelda wind waker HD don't ring any bells? Ah ok, they took some time to make an port, I get it.

So how long Nintendo have to wait to port a game so its system won't be considered shit?

Funny that you also say that most of Wii U library is shit. I wonder why you bought a Wii U in the first place.

Let's be honest here: you're joking, right? You don't even trying to be reasonable. 



 

 

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