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Mar1217 said:
gooch_destroyer said:

was hoping they'd have some SNES stuff. 

What about that Xeno game with the mechs, is it a good one or wait for that other mecha game?

Xenoblade X is only on WiiU and there's no plan of a port coming to the Switch.

Now, the more people get interested in Daemon x Machina, the better ! From what I heard, it's basically a spiritual sucessor to the Armor Core franchise, except now with a distinct cell-shaded artstyle and a different premise. Some features in this one will be different in this one when it comes to your pilot and the way to customize your mech.

Sounds good to me. 

I think I should get that wired controller. 



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Smash Bros Ultimate has now been leaked online, 12 days before release. I don't remember this happening with any other console before.



Marth said:

https://nintendoeverything.com/rumor-aonuma-teases-zelda-skyward-sword-for-switch-during-japanese-concert/

That is some teasing from Aonuma.

I would rebuy a HD version.

Honestly? I'm down to get the HD version as well. I didn't like Skyward Sword at all, but if the game can be not broken anymore and the motion controls can actually WORK, then I think the game may be playable. I also think you should be able to shut Fi off, since she is the dumbest thing in the history of Zelda. Yes, even worse than The Adventure of Link. Even worse than Navi. 

If you notice, the best selling and most loved Zelda to come out in the past 20 years (now that we're past OOT's original release by just over 20 years) and the second best Zelda ever according to critics and audiences is the one that doesn't hold your hand, doesn't give you a nagging helper, and lets you just explore at your own leisure. Breath of the Wild is amazing.



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mZuzek said:
Barkley said:
Smash Bros Ultimate has now been leaked online, 12 days before release. I don't remember this happening with any other console before.

We could say the reason for this is Nintendo being too careless, or hackers being too desperate, but maybe we can say it's unprecedented because of equally unprecedented hype?

Runa216 said:

Honestly? I'm down to get the HD version as well. I didn't like Skyward Sword at all, but if the game can be not broken anymore and the motion controls can actually WORK, then I think the game may be playable. I also think you should be able to shut Fi off, since she is the dumbest thing in the history of Zelda. Yes, even worse than The Adventure of Link. Even worse than Navi. 

If you notice, the best selling and most loved Zelda to come out in the past 20 years (now that we're past OOT's original release by just over 20 years) and the second best Zelda ever according to critics and audiences is the one that doesn't hold your hand, doesn't give you a nagging helper, and lets you just explore at your own leisure. Breath of the Wild is amazing.

Yeah, that's great for Breath of the Wild. Skyward Sword isn't Breath of the Wild, nor should it try to be.

I do hope they cut back on the excessive throwaway cutscenes and Fi dialogue, they hampered the gameplay too often and were too handholdy. I'd still enjoy the game as much as I always have if they don't, but it'd be a big missed opportunity.

That's the thing, though. The Wii is the highest selling Nintendo Home Console and Skyward Sword is one of the lowest selling mainline Zelda games despite coming out at the end of the Wii's life cycle. It has excessive hand-holding and motion controls. 

The switch releases with Zelda as a launch title but not a bundle. It has virtually no handholding, gives the player unprecedented freedom and is a huge open world; This becomes the best selling Zelda title of all time a year and a half after it's release while still selling well every week. (OOT technically sold more through rereleases but for single releases, BOTW is the highest selling.) 

You're right, Skyward Sword is its own thing and should be judged on its own merits. It was. The general public mostly rejected it. I'm on board to give it another chance because 60% of my problems with that game was the bad controls and 30% of my problems were Fi's over-explanation. I actually LIKE the idea of a linear Zelda title (one of my favorites is Four Swords Adventures on gamecube), so I don't WANT to hate Skyward Sword, but the reality is that it was largely rejected and for good reason. 

Hell, Wind Waker sold more than Skyward Sword despite being on what was Nintendo's lowest-selling home console (The WiiU has since bested it in the wrong way, but at the time that skyward Sword came out, Wii was the best selling and Gamecube was the lowest selling Nintendo Home Console).



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...skyward sword hd? meh only if they remove the annoying controls remove fi , and remove groose from the story then I might consider it



mZuzek said:
Runa216 said:

I don't WANT to hate Skyward Sword, but the reality is that it was largely rejected and for good reason. 


Unprecedented rejection.

Also, you show quite a lack of understanding of Zelda sales trends. Zelda games don't really sell based on install bases, they are the kinds of games that sell consoles and not the other way around. The first Zelda game to release on a console is always the best-selling one, and if there is a second one, its sales are always much lower. The best comparison you could make here is N64's OoT and MM versus Wii's TP and SS, and here it shows. The "widely accepted" great game Majora's Mask was actually outsold by Skyward Sword, despite the earlier entry (Twilight Princess) not managing to outsell Ocarina of Time. Regardless, it's a trend that's always happened, even with remasters:

NES - Zelda 1 (6.5m) > Zelda 2 (4.4m)
GB - Link's Awakening (3.8m and 2.2m) > Oracles (1.9m and 1.8m)
N64 - Ocarina of Time (7.6m) > Majora's Mask (3.4m)
GC - The Wind Waker (4.6m) > Twilight Princess (1.6m)
Wii - Twilight Princess (7.2m) > Skyward Sword (4.0m)
3DS - Ocarina of Time 3D (5.2m) > A Link Between Worlds (3.5m)
WiiU - The Wind Waker HD (2.1m) > Breath of the Wild (1.5m)
and inevitably,
Switch - Breath of the Wild (10m+) > whatever comes after.

Sure, Breath of the Wild has sold as much as it has because it's a fantastic game, but also because its style is far more appealing for a general audience than Skyward Sword's. The most successful mainstream single-player games nowadays are always the ones that allow for loads of freedom, it's just what the mainstream audience wants. Skyward Sword is a very linear, story-based game, and it was the second Zelda release on a console people didn't care about anymore (see 3DS game sales in 2017), and it required an additional peripheral to play. It actually sold very well for the kind of game it was and the circumstances it released on, but sure, go ahead and make a fuss about how it's rejected by everyone.

It's not just Zelda either, plenty of Nintendo's other 1st party franchises follow that trend:

Mario:
NES - Mario 1 (40.2m) > Mario 3 (17.3m)
SNES - Mario World (20.6m) > Mario All Stars (10.6m)
GB - Mario Land 1 (18.1m) > Mario Land 2 (11.2m) > Mario Land 3 (5.2m)
N64 - Mario Party (2.7m) > Mario Party 2 (2.5m) > Mario Party 3 (1.9m)
GCN - Mario Party 4 (2.5m) > Mario Party 5 (2.1m) > Mario Party 6 (1.7m) > Mario Party 7 (1.6m)
Wii - Galaxy 1 (12.8m)* > Galaxy 2 (7.6m);

Pokemon:
GB - Red/Green (31.4m) > Gold/Silver (23.1m); Yellow (14.6m) > Crystal (6.4m)
DS - Diamond/Pearl (17.7m)* > Black/White (15.6m)*
3DS - X/Y (16.3m)* > Sun/Moon (16.1m)* - Not even the peak Pokemon GO hype + the 20th anniversary could crack this one.

Donkey Kong:
SNES - DKC 1 (9.3m) > DKC 2 (5.2m) > DKC 3 (3.5m)

* (According to Nintendo's Financial Data)



A question to Nintendo fans about the eshop:

I don't think i have ever seen eshop credits on sale in stores or online for myself. But i see that a lot for PS and XBOX. Just last black friday for example. I do live in Europe so cannot say for sure it's equally rare in America.

Can you often buy Nintendo eshop credits in store of online in your part of the world?

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Mar1217 said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

A question to Nintendo fans about the eshop:

I don't think i have ever seen eshop credits on sale in stores or online for myself. But i see that a lot for PS and XBOX. Just last black friday for example. I do live in Europe so cannot say for sure it's equally rare in America.

Can you often buy Nintendo eshop credits in store of online in your part of the world?

Yeah, there's some available at my groceries store or video game retailers like EB Games,Microplay or Walmart. Don't know why this wouldn't be the case in Europe though.

I thought it would be available in Europe also but it doesn't seem to be. I cannot find an eshop card for Switch on amazon or Mediamarkt (big store like wallmart in Europe). I can find cards for Wii U and 3DS online and in store, but nothing for the switch here.

Maybe i should order them in from America.



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