o_O.Q said:
palou said:
I mean, even with religion, how could you say that god's given morality is OBJECTIVELY ideal?
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because over a long period of time we've observed what concepts lead to stable, prosperous societies/individuals and how the ignoring of those concepts have lead to the downfall of societies/individuals
in short the answer is ironically the same for our sciences - observations of what works over long periods of times repetitively
and that's why we associated these concepts with the supernatural because they appear to transcend our limited scope of reality
concepts such as do onto others as you would have them do onto you
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If that is your answer, I do not see how god needs to be implied. Morality, its purposes and effects, have been discussed extensively by many great minds. (Bentham, Mills, Kant, Rawls...)
Game theory can turn optimizing human behaviour into mathematical equations.
No religion needed. If you say it's a science, then leave it to scientists, with more complete procedures.
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