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teamsilent13 said:

I work with the bad kind of illegals. Including literal rapists and pedophiles. I Would like to see more get deported honestly. It was good to hear some of our growers actually get hit by ICE. About time we get some law and order. No amount of propaganda will change my morals. Illegal immigration is unfair to legal immigrants, our own poor, and taxpayers. He needs to be part of the solution to his country so I don't feel bad even if he identifies as Republican or whatever. I look at Sweden and I don't want to turn America into a third world country like them. The culture divide is already so strong and I'm a mixed American saying that.

Funny because to Swedish people, the US is a third world country.



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outlawauron said:
VGPolyglot said:

Arbitrarily defined borders that can affect the entire life of an individual.

So, how is it any different that have personal land or proeperty? Should you allow any person who wishes into your home?

Hey Outlaw The difference I guess is that while shelter is necessary, which makes someone having their own living quarters a must, a territorial border that puts a group of people who will never even know a miniscule percentage of the people belonging to that group while trying to keep out another group of people that just want a better life, and where they can still have their own shelter, seems unnecessary.



I am all for people immigrating legally, however part of the US's problem is that the amont of people they let in legally is much too low to meet demand.



There were a ton of people who voted for Trump in order to get rid of Obama care as well. But didn't realize they were even on it.
Such as this guy:


I sometimes wonder about the USA. Haha.

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Same thing happens in the land down under as well sadly.

Had one bloke whinging how there isn't enough jobs to go around... So happily sits on Welfare.
Yet was first in line to petition against the export of Iron Ore at our port and all the jobs that would have brought with it.

Some people you just can't bloody help.



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His vote had nothing to do with this. Him getting deported probably had little to nothing to do with Trump. Good for him for voting for what he felt what was in the best interest of the country. Not just what mainstream media told him
to vote for or what most others of his ethnicity were voting for. But yes, as by law he should have been deported and he was. Nothing wrong here folks. fyi: many many deportations took place under Obama.



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Teeqoz said:
I am all for people immigrating legally, however part of the US's problem is that the amont of people they let in legally is much too low to meet demand.

We should only demand the best in America ... 

Only the most educated or biggest contributors (potential tax revenue) should be allowed to take part in the greatest nation in the world ... 

Those who try to enter in order to raise their oversized families should be dead last for consideration ... 

America's purpose doesn't exist to raise a foreign nation's new generation, it exists to nurture our own new generation so we'll demand as much or little as we want ...



fatslob-:O said:
Teeqoz said:
I am all for people immigrating legally, however part of the US's problem is that the amont of people they let in legally is much too low to meet demand.

We should only demand the best in America ... 

Only the most educated or biggest contributors (potential tax revenue) should be allowed to take part in the greatest nation in the world ... 

Those who try to enter in order to raise their oversized families should be dead last for consideration ... 

America's purpose doesn't exist to raise a foreign nation's new generation, it exists to nurture our own new generation so we'll demand as much or little as we want ...

You can argue idealism all you want (in which case there are many idealistic arguments against your viewpoints as well), but if you look at it with a pragmatic point of view, your current immigration policies don't stop people from coming. They just ensure that people immigrate illegally, which lowers potential tax revenue, increases crime, pushes down wages because those workers have no rights to speak of (and even if they did, they couldn't use them cause they'd be thrown out), and is overall detrimental to society. Your policies act as a gateway into more crime because you already make people into criminals, which lowers the bar for participating in other legal activites, both voluntarily and being forced to do so.



teamsilent13 said:

I work with the bad kind of illegals. Including literal rapists and pedophiles. I Would like to see more get deported honestly. It was good to hear some of our growers actually get hit by ICE. About time we get some law and order. No amount of propaganda will change my morals. Illegal immigration is unfair to legal immigrants, our own poor, and taxpayers. He needs to be part of the solution to his country so I don't feel bad even if he identifies as Republican or whatever. I look at Sweden and I don't want to turn America into a third world country like them. The culture divide is already so strong and I'm a mixed American saying that.

Sweden a third world country? And people wonder why non-americans have a "warped view" of americans.



barneystinson69 said:
JWeinCom said:

That's really not the point of the story.  It's not really about whether or not he should be deported.  It's more about how someone can be convinced to vote against their own self interest.

What is his self-interest? He can't vote, it was his daughter who voted (and how do we know for certain he voted for Drumpf?). He shouldn't be in a country illegally in the first place, and Drumpf was going to win regardless of that one vote. 

Well, that's all completely irrelevant.  Whether or not he should have been there, he wanted to stay.  He was convinced to support a candidate who would make that more difficult.  That's against his self interest.



Open up the borders and let everyone in.