And so is the XBO S.  How's that working out for it?  Unlike some believe, those features do not make a big seller.  Not when you can get something that does the exact same thing for half the price or less than the console.

17 million sounds like a lot to me, but the headline says "narrow demographic". I myself won't get one, I'll just try to grab an S instead.

1. My post was about the percentage. I didn't talk how much it is going to sell.

2. I think Microsoft plan is to treat Xbox like a PC when it comes to game development. So in 2020, games will work like this:

Very low - low settings 4K games on Xbox One X

Medium - high settings 4K games on new console.

Xbox One X will be on sale for four extra years (~2024) for people who wants to play Xbox games using a cheap console. It won't stop selling by the launch of its successor.  

What I meant is they won't force developer to make the game playable on Xbox One S. It will be a 7 years old machine that will limit the game developed for the new console.  And how is that shooting themselves in the foot again? They will announce late 2018 or early 2019 that 2020's Xbox games won't necessary work on Xnox One X.

my 4k curved tv is crying and begging for the xbox scorpio. I WILL OBEY! MY EYES WILL ORGASM!

Those feature you mentioned above is also available on the Xb1s, which is cost less money than the X, making the X1X completely pointless to those type of ppl. The only reason you wanna buy X1X right now is solely because the games that took the advantage of its extra power.

On topic do they really expect the X1X to perform better than the Pro, which was available for cheaper? Maybe they drink too much before working.

Yeah like I said at the first line of my post, it's likely from a % wise you are right with your assessment :)

But... if you think the Xbox one brand will continue into the new console in 2020 do you think that the original X1 model (the version that has things like call of duty ghosts running at 720p) will still be capable of playing some version of the 2020 and beyond software so you would have

New Xbox one X 2 running games at actually 4k

Xbox one X running games at checkboard 4k or 1080 with bells and whistles on

Xbox one S running those games at sub 1080 but still that marginal gap in power over the base model

Xbox one 720p lowest settings, frame rate not guarenteed

Christ the above makes me think of this meme after E3 lol

But that's another thing, realistically I see the Xbox now as something like the Wii U especially the Xbox one, just in terms of name of system the brand has suffered badly since the reveal of the X1 by Don Mattick, it could be time their marketing comes up with a new system to distance themselves from naming confusion with the older system but allow the new machine have full 100% backwards compatibility with the old, but not the other way around anymore. (in 2020 I mean)

Well fuck numbers, at least we'll know how many 4k bullets where shot off in Call of duty or how many miles of 4k road were driven in Forza 8 or 9 whichever it was, I've lost count. I wonder will they at least give us an idea by providing solid figures for how many 1080p bullets were shot so we can draw some comparisons with their completely pointless numbers?

From memory the XB1S is doing pretty well. The X1X is for those wanting to also game in 4k while still supplying the 4k features. 

You could buy a $500 4k Blu Ray player to compliment your new 4k TV or you could buy a X1X that can play 4k movies, games and acts as your TV box for less than $500.

Choices choices.

Thats the value of the X1X. 

17m seems like double what I would have expected going by a slight decline in the Xbox brand as it loses competitiveness with playstation and now a third major competitor with the Switch. I'm not expecting it to do good business in mainland Europe at all really.

However saying that its really down to pricing, if Microsoft decides to take a large loss on each unit and undercut the ps4 pro price then I could see it becoming much more competitive. If they introduce a budget design of xbox one undercutting the ps4 price and bundling a few games I can see interest increasing which would have a knock on effect to their premium X model. Basically though I think they will really struggle to hit 10 million let alone 17 million.