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Nautilus said:
NawaiNey said:

No the hell they don't.

Its an opinion.Its subjective.

But if you want to be as objective as possible, its widely aceppted(as in the majority agree) that Nintendo is the best developer of first party games of the big three, by quantity and quality.

It's accepted among Nintendo fans that Nintendo makes the best games, but if you actually look at the reviews, or awards and such Nintendo is no where close to being the best. 



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NawaiNey said:
Slade6alpha said:
They make better first party than Sony and MS... don't see the issue.

No the hell they don't.

Yes they do. "Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale" and "Little Big Planet Karting" are inspired by Nintendo. 



NawaiNey said:
Nautilus said:

Its an opinion.Its subjective.

But if you want to be as objective as possible, its widely aceppted(as in the majority agree) that Nintendo is the best developer of first party games of the big three, by quantity and quality.

It's accepted among Nintendo fans that Nintendo makes the best games, but if you actually look at the reviews, or awards and such Nintendo is no where close to being the best. 

Ok, so since you seem to swear by Metacritic, I assume you agree that Zelda OoT is the greatest game of all time?

Also, why do you only look to last gen to compare the big three and their outut/scores? Because Metacritic has a handy feature where you can easily see the average score for publishers and the amount of games they have reviewed, but I suspect you actually knew about that, but didn't bring it up/include it anywhere because it went against your narrative. For example, according to Metacritic, Nintendo has an average score of 76 from 549 game reviews, of which 314 are positive, 223 mixed, and 12 negative; the highest score from those games being a 99, and the lowest a 37. Compare that to Sony, who has an average score of 73 from 538 game reviews, of which 262 reviews are positive, 265 are mixed, and 11 are negative. The highest score from those games is a 96, and the lowest is 36. Finally, we have Microsoft, who has an average score of 74 from 367 game reviews, of which 205 are positive, 146 are mixed, and 16 are negative. The highest scored game from those are a 97, and the lowest 28. From this apparently factual and correct evidence from Metacriticsince you seem to love to use it so much of course, we can safely conclude that Nintendo makes the best games, and they also have the highest output of games.

You agree of course, right?

EDIT: Here's a link if you want to look for yourself www.metacritic.com/browse/games/company/popular



NawaiNey said:
Nautilus said:

Its an opinion.Its subjective.

But if you want to be as objective as possible, its widely aceppted(as in the majority agree) that Nintendo is the best developer of first party games of the big three, by quantity and quality.

It's accepted among Nintendo fans that Nintendo makes the best games, but if you actually look at the reviews, or awards and such Nintendo is no where close to being the best. 

Review? Based on review, Zelda Ocarina of Time and Breath of The Wild are two of the best games of all time



John19 said:
NawaiNey said:

It's accepted among Nintendo fans that Nintendo makes the best games, but if you actually look at the reviews, or awards and such Nintendo is no where close to being the best. 

Ok, so since you seem to swear by Metacritic, I assume you agree that Zelda OoT is the greatest game of all time?

Also, why do you only look to last gen to compare the big three and their outut/scores? Because Metacritic has a handy feature where you can easily see the average score for publishers and the amount of games they have reviewed, but I suspect you actually knew about that, but didn't bring it up/include it anywhere because it went against your narrative. For example, according to Metacritic, Nintendo has an average score of 76 from 549 game reviews, of which 314 are positive, 223 mixed, and 12 negative; the highest score from those games being a 99, and the lowest a 37. Compare that to Sony, who has an average score of 73 from 538 game reviews, of which 262 reviews are positive, 265 are mixed, and 11 are negative. The highest score from those games is a 96, and the lowest is 36. Finally, we have Microsoft, who has an average score of 74 from 367 game reviews, of which 205 are positive, 146 are mixed, and 16 are negative. The highest scored game from those are a 97, and the lowest 28. From this apparently factual and correct evidence from Metacriticsince you seem to love to use it so much of course, we can safely conclude that Nintendo makes the best games, and they also have the highest output of games.

You agree of course, right?

EDIT: Here's a link if you want to look for yourself www.metacritic.com/browse/games/company/popular

great reply



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John19 said:
NawaiNey said:

It's accepted among Nintendo fans that Nintendo makes the best games, but if you actually look at the reviews, or awards and such Nintendo is no where close to being the best. 

Ok, so since you seem to swear by Metacritic, I assume you agree that Zelda OoT is the greatest game of all time?

Also, why do you only look to last gen to compare the big three and their outut/scores? Because Metacritic has a handy feature where you can easily see the average score for publishers and the amount of games they have reviewed, but I suspect you actually knew about that, but didn't bring it up/include it anywhere because it went against your narrative. For example, according to Metacritic, Nintendo has an average score of 76 from 549 game reviews, of which 314 are positive, 223 mixed, and 12 negative; the highest score from those games being a 99, and the lowest a 37. Compare that to Sony, who has an average score of 73 from 538 game reviews, of which 262 reviews are positive, 265 are mixed, and 11 are negative. The highest score from those games is a 96, and the lowest is 36. Finally, we have Microsoft, who has an average score of 74 from 367 game reviews, of which 205 are positive, 146 are mixed, and 16 are negative. The highest scored game from those are a 97, and the lowest 28. From this apparently factual and correct evidence from Metacriticsince you seem to love to use it so much of course, we can safely conclude that Nintendo makes the best games, and they also have the highest output of games.

You agree of course, right?

EDIT: Here's a link if you want to look for yourself www.metacritic.com/browse/games/company/popular

That's all well and fine if you ignore the fact that Nintendo has been in the industry far longer and has released a lot more platforms, and somehow has about the same amount of games Sony has released on far fewer systems. Which isn't all that true because the actual fact is that Metacritic doesn't have reviews for the older generations barring the really good stuff from NES/SNES/N64/PS1 days, so since only the good Nintendo games from earlier generation are counted it brings nintendo's average up since the bad games from nintendo's first 3 generations aren't bringing it down. 

That's why I use last gen because that's the only actual comlete generation we have which Metacritic has all the reviews for.



NawaiNey said:
Mr.GameCrazy said:

Please elaborate on that.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=230049&page=1#

 

That's last gen software output by each of the 3 companies, I'm sure this one will go much the same way, or Nintendo might overtake Microsoft cause they've really lost the plot this gen. 

Just because Nintendo's average is slightly lower than Microsoft's (based on your calculations) does not mean that Nintendo has the worst quality of games. Heck, the averages in your calculations for each of the big 3 are all in the 80s. They all make great games. Can't we just leave it at that?



John19 said:
NawaiNey said:

It's accepted among Nintendo fans that Nintendo makes the best games, but if you actually look at the reviews, or awards and such Nintendo is no where close to being the best. 

Ok, so since you seem to swear by Metacritic, I assume you agree that Zelda OoT is the greatest game of all time?

Also, why do you only look to last gen to compare the big three and their outut/scores? Because Metacritic has a handy feature where you can easily see the average score for publishers and the amount of games they have reviewed, but I suspect you actually knew about that, but didn't bring it up/include it anywhere because it went against your narrative. For example, according to Metacritic, Nintendo has an average score of 76 from 549 game reviews, of which 314 are positive, 223 mixed, and 12 negative; the highest score from those games being a 99, and the lowest a 37. Compare that to Sony, who has an average score of 73 from 538 game reviews, of which 262 reviews are positive, 265 are mixed, and 11 are negative. The highest score from those games is a 96, and the lowest is 36. Finally, we have Microsoft, who has an average score of 74 from 367 game reviews, of which 205 are positive, 146 are mixed, and 16 are negative. The highest scored game from those are a 97, and the lowest 28. From this apparently factual and correct evidence from Metacriticsince you seem to love to use it so much of course, we can safely conclude that Nintendo makes the best games, and they also have the highest output of games.

You agree of course, right?

EDIT: Here's a link if you want to look for yourself www.metacritic.com/browse/games/company/popular



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John19 said:
NawaiNey said:

It's accepted among Nintendo fans that Nintendo makes the best games, but if you actually look at the reviews, or awards and such Nintendo is no where close to being the best. 

Ok, so since you seem to swear by Metacritic, I assume you agree that Zelda OoT is the greatest game of all time?

Also, why do you only look to last gen to compare the big three and their outut/scores? Because Metacritic has a handy feature where you can easily see the average score for publishers and the amount of games they have reviewed, but I suspect you actually knew about that, but didn't bring it up/include it anywhere because it went against your narrative. For example, according to Metacritic, Nintendo has an average score of 76 from 549 game reviews, of which 314 are positive, 223 mixed, and 12 negative; the highest score from those games being a 99, and the lowest a 37. Compare that to Sony, who has an average score of 73 from 538 game reviews, of which 262 reviews are positive, 265 are mixed, and 11 are negative. The highest score from those games is a 96, and the lowest is 36. Finally, we have Microsoft, who has an average score of 74 from 367 game reviews, of which 205 are positive, 146 are mixed, and 16 are negative. The highest scored game from those are a 97, and the lowest 28. From this apparently factual and correct evidence from Metacriticsince you seem to love to use it so much of course, we can safely conclude that Nintendo makes the best games, and they also have the highest output of games.

You agree of course, right?

EDIT: Here's a link if you want to look for yourself www.metacritic.com/browse/games/company/popular

Yup, great reply.

I will just add that in list of top 20 best reviewed games of all times Nintendo have 5 games, while MS has one game, while Sony doesn't have not one.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all/filtered?sort=desc

 

 

NawaiNey said:
Nautilus said:

Its an opinion.Its subjective.

But if you want to be as objective as possible, its widely aceppted(as in the majority agree) that Nintendo is the best developer of first party games of the big three, by quantity and quality.

It's accepted among Nintendo fans that Nintendo makes the best games, but if you actually look at the reviews, or awards and such Nintendo is no where close to being the best. 

How many exactly games Sony and MS have in top 20 games of all time, and how many Nintendo have them!? What is best reviewed game of all time, what its best reviewed game in almost last 10 year alongside GTAV!? You know there is reason why people are saying that Nintendo is making best games, and its not some blindness of fans.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all/filtered?sort=desc



NawaiNey said:
Nautilus said:

Its an opinion.Its subjective.

But if you want to be as objective as possible, its widely aceppted(as in the majority agree) that Nintendo is the best developer of first party games of the big three, by quantity and quality.

It's accepted among Nintendo fans that Nintendo makes the best games, but if you actually look at the reviews, or awards and such Nintendo is no where close to being the best. 

Its accepted by the gaming community that Nintendo make the best first oarty games.Just look at those same reviews, awards and such just to see it.