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curl-6 on 28 June 2017
Kerotan said:
Sprash said:
playstation is the best platform to play games on.

Damn straight. No wonder Playstation has won 3/4 gens. 

3/4 console gens, but 3/6 gens if we count PSP and PS Vita.



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chakkra on 28 June 2017
pokoko said:

That Playstation usually has access to a few games which recieve the most GOTY votes isn't the most important takeaway.

That Playstation usually has access to a lot of different games which a lot of different people think of as their own personal GOTY is much more meaningful.  It's not the quantity of the whole or just the quality of a few, it's the quantity of quality that brings in repeat buyers.

This.  
A hundred times this.



VAMatt on 28 June 2017

The list in the OP does not jibe with my recollection of the generally accepted game of the year for at least a few of those years.



curl-6 on 28 June 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

I feel like with the PS3 Sony lost sight of what made them popular in the past by trying too hard to be a high-end luxury piece of tech instead of being an accessible mainstream device like PS1, PS2, and for that matter PS4. That kind of left them vulnerable to the Wii in particular which was able to scoop up a lot of the PS2's casual base.

They had to save blu ray or else the venture would've been a failure. Yes, I'll agree they came off like a bunch off snobs.later on I read up on it and understood their position because Sony has a track record of influencing playback formats  formats inside and outside the gaming industry. I went on the 360 and was apart of he Wii60 group. Remember that? (Lol)once uncharted 2 came out I jumped on the PS3 and fell in love with Sony all over again. This one their first party got stronger.

the Wii didn't scoop up the ps2 casual base though (or well even a substantial amount). That was a new market of casuals who don't traditionally game on consoles. If you look at the PS3 and 360s lifetime sales Microsoft capitalized on sonys mistakes by shaving off half of their previous market share. They both had over 160+ million consoles between them which was what the ps2 sold. The reason people noticed nintnendos market wasn't traditional was because hardcore third party games found it hard to make major profit off of a 100 million selling platform and Nintendos first party was selling brilliantly. I was happy for them.

I don't buy for a second that the 70 million PS2 buyers who never got a PS3 all went to Microsoft. Wii and PS2 were both the go-to mainstream of their generation, naturally there would be overlap.



NawaiNey on 29 June 2017
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

They had to save blu ray or else the venture would've been a failure. Yes, I'll agree they came off like a bunch off snobs.later on I read up on it and understood their position because Sony has a track record of influencing playback formats  formats inside and outside the gaming industry. I went on the 360 and was apart of he Wii60 group. Remember that? (Lol)once uncharted 2 came out I jumped on the PS3 and fell in love with Sony all over again. This one their first party got stronger.

the Wii didn't scoop up the ps2 casual base though (or well even a substantial amount). That was a new market of casuals who don't traditionally game on consoles. If you look at the PS3 and 360s lifetime sales Microsoft capitalized on sonys mistakes by shaving off half of their previous market share. They both had over 160+ million consoles between them which was what the ps2 sold. The reason people noticed nintnendos market wasn't traditional was because hardcore third party games found it hard to make major profit off of a 100 million selling platform and Nintendos first party was selling brilliantly. I was happy for them.

I don't buy for a second that the 70 million PS2 buyers who never got a PS3 all went to Microsoft. Wii and PS2 were both the go-to mainstream of their generation, naturally there would be overlap.

Actually that would fit quite well. PS2+XB combined sold about 180 million units. PS3+360 combined will likely end at about the same.



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curl-6 on 29 June 2017
NawaiNey said:
curl-6 said:

I don't buy for a second that the 70 million PS2 buyers who never got a PS3 all went to Microsoft. Wii and PS2 were both the go-to mainstream of their generation, naturally there would be overlap.

Actually that would fit quite well. PS2+XB combined sold about 180 million units. PS3+360 combined will likely end at about the same.

 That's assuming though that neither 360 nor PS3 won over any new gamers nor absorbed any of Gamecube's base. 



Miyamotoo on 29 June 2017
Jumpin said:

Just to debunk this post. Games of the year based on general consensus (http://www.gamerankings.com/) and sales (http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2017/Global/):

Review scores:
2006 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (94.58%)
2007 - Super Mario Galaxy (97.64%)
2008 - Grand Theft Auto IV (97.04%)
2009 - Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (96.43%)
2010 - Super Mario Galaxy 2 (97.35%)
2011 - Batman: Arkham City (95.94%)
2012 - Persona 4 Golden (94.16%)
2013 - Grand Theft Auto V (97.01%)
2014 - Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (92.39%)
2015 - Undertale (94.11%)
2016 - INSIDE (92.81%)
2017 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (97.28%)

Sales:
2006 -New Super Mario Bros. (DS) - 8,001,240
2007 - Wii Sports (Wii) - 14,794,664 (#2 was Pokemon Diamond, highest ranked Sony game was Motorstorm, only ranked 17th)
2008 - Wii Sports (Wii) - 21,842,013 (#2 was Mario Kart Wii, GTA 4 ranked 7th place was the highest Sony game)
2009 - Wii Sports (Wii) - 18,788,738 (#2 was Wii Sports Resort, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 was Sony's highest at #8)
2010 - Wii Sports (Wii) - 15,218,276 (#2 was Wii Sports Resort again, Call of Duty again for Sony at #5)
2011 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (X360) - 12,561,893
2012 - Call of Duty: Black Ops II (X360) - 10,425,836
2013 - Grand Theft Auto V (PS3) - 16,894,054
2014 - Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire (3DS) - 7,527,047
2015 - Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 (PS4) - 10,556,687
2016 - Pokemon Sun/Moon (3DS) - 12,028,382
2017 - Horizon: Zero Dawn (PS4) - 2,875,704 (Zelda will be #1 on the next update or two, since Horizon is done selling, and Zelda, currently at 2,837,078, is catching up quickly as it continues to sell as Switch sells).

Yup, if we look at best reviewed games of each year, list is quite different, than we have currently 4 Nintendo games in last 12 years.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/all/filtered?sort=desc&year_selected=2014



NATO on 29 June 2017

Behold, the unbeaten king of gaming.



Shikamo on 29 June 2017
BraLoD said:
Boutros said:

Oblivion and Bioshock weren't available on the PS3 until one year after they came out on the 360. It also coincides with when Playstation was at its worse.

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foxtail on 29 June 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Cyberworld7 said:
Sony succeeds beacause it life or death for them ps4 is the only profitable division

Sony succeeds because their approach to gaming always worked the second they landed in the industry. There was no successful multimedia focused console on sonys level before their entrance. They expanded the market to tech enthusiasts and exposed console gaming to PC where with sega and Nintendo most people in the 90s didn't even consider consoles an option. 

When I think of PC gaming in the 90s I think of FPS games foremost.  And when I think of FPS games on consoles I think of GoldenEye 007 on the N64 which sold 8 Million copies.