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I don't see 4K being common for another five years or so in developed countries. Televisions have dropped in price, but content is still limited, gaming or otherwise.



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I am not sure what the hell people are talking about. You can get a HDR 55 Inch 4K TV right now for under 500 bucks. Some are actually the cost of the PS4 Pro. If anything, having a 4K console is the absolute best time right now because they will be flying off the shelf come this holiday season.

I totally agree with Reggie that for Nintendo, its nothing something to pursue because resolution has never been something they have pursued. For MS and Sony, their customer base will be looking to match up their brand new sets with a console able to push out those pretty pictures.



curl-6 said:
Kerotan said:

I disagree.  Not many people get into cartoony games as adults.  Most start liking them as kids. I don't see many people who were not long term Nintendo fans suddenly getting into Mario, splatoon,  pokemon etc as adults. 

Being accessible to kids does not mean focussed on kids. Adults are fully capable of enjoying light-hearted and colourful games, and millions do. The E rating stands for "Everyone". Nintendo's games are age-agnostic.

These games were origanal made for kids and successfully so. the syle of the games hasn't changed. They've not matured the experiences for the ost part. So they're still kids games just one of those things that successfully capture adults aswell. Same as the example i have earlier. Lego. 



Kerotan said:
curl-6 said:

Being accessible to kids does not mean focussed on kids. Adults are fully capable of enjoying light-hearted and colourful games, and millions do. The E rating stands for "Everyone". Nintendo's games are age-agnostic.

These games were origanal made for kids and successfully so. the syle of the games hasn't changed. They've not matured the experiences for the ost part. So they're still kids games just one of those things that successfully capture adults aswell. Same as the example i have earlier. Lego. 

The idea that upbeat and colourful games are for kids and only dark gritty stuff is for adults is a very shallow and oversimplified notion.

C S Lewis summed it up nicely: “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”



I know maybe a handful of people with a 4K set, of that limited pool about half aren't gamers and the other half don't care enough at this point to make another financial investment beyond the gaming platform they do have.

4K devices while coming down in pricing is still a luxury for many.



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CGI-Quality said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Mature? Unless you're reffering to the label as in "meant for Mature audiences / rated M" I wouldn't say Sony has any title that is thematically mature besides The Last of Us. Not trying to downplay their exclusives but their maturity is pretty stereotypical

What is stereotypical maturity?

 

Big guns, big muscles, and a big penis

curl-6 said:
Kerotan said:

These games were origanal made for kids and successfully so. the syle of the games hasn't changed. They've not matured the experiences for the ost part. So they're still kids games just one of those things that successfully capture adults aswell. Same as the example i have earlier. Lego. 

The idea that upbeat and colourful games are for kids and only dark gritty stuff is for adults is a very shallow and oversimplified notion.

C S Lewis summed it up nicely: “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

i mean games that parents might not let their kids play until their older. not an issue with nintendo. very rarely does a nintendo game have drugs, bad language, gore, killing, sex, horror etc. they mostly go for the kid firendly , cartooney vibe. 



CGI-Quality said:
sethnintendo said:

 

Big guns, big muscles, and a big penis

Which isn't what I get from the PS4's exclusive library.

 

What are their exclusives? I have no clue because I don't follow what is released on other systems.

CGI-Quality said:
sethnintendo said:

 

What are their exclusives? I have no clue because I don't follow what is released on other systems.

- Knack
- DRIVECLUB
- Uncharted 4
- Killzone (the only one that could particularly fall into the "big gun" category)
- LBP 3
- inFAMOUS
- Until Dawn
- Ratchet & Clank
- The Order
- Horizon: Zero Dawn
- Bloodborne

That's just off the top of my head. 

And PS plus subscribers are getting until dawn free in a few days. Amazing to think we're getting one of the best exclusives.



Kerotan said:
curl-6 said:

The idea that upbeat and colourful games are for kids and only dark gritty stuff is for adults is a very shallow and oversimplified notion.

C S Lewis summed it up nicely: “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

i mean games that parents might not let their kids play until their older. not an issue with nintendo. very rarely does a nintendo game have drugs, bad language, gore, killing, sex, horror etc. they mostly go for the kid firendly , cartooney vibe. 

True, but what I'm saying is that kid friendly and kid focussed are not the same thing. Mario and Splatoon may be accessible to kids due to their lack of sex/violence/coarse language/etc, but they're just as accessible to adults. Nintendo knew when they made these games that a massive portion of their player base are the 30-somethings who grew up on the NES, SNES, and N64, so they're made with adults in mind as well as kids. Nintendo's games are designed to be enjoyable whether you're 9 or 39, and no more one than the other.