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Forums - Politics Discussion - Illinois sweetened beverage tax goes into effect July 1st 2017-moved to the 12th now

I'm guessing the goal of the bill is to fight obesity. Although maybe if the government would stop subsidizing corn production for corn-syrup, that would make a real difference. Alas...

It's better than nothing.



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How are we gonna get fat if we need to pay a penny per ounce!?!?!?!



spurgeonryan said:
Teeqoz said:
I'm guessing the goal of the bill is to fight obesity. Although maybe if the government would stop subsidizing corn production for corn-syrup, that would make a real difference. Alas...

It's better than nothing.

I feel it is more about money and less about obesity. If that were the case everyone on food stamps would not be immune from this huge tax. Just think of what a case of drink mix is going to cost. One penny for every ounce that it says it can make.

Drink refills at the restaurant are now taxed as well.

This will not stop obesity, but it will make many who are barely not on food stamps, be on food stamps or start to go hungry.

People can just drink water...



Philly's soda tax so far has caused grocery sales to plummet in Philly with an attendant shortfall of tax revenue, and a Pepsi plant to institute 20% layoffs. And Philly is small enough in land area that it's fairly simple for people to buy their soda in neighboring counties and even across the state line in New Jersey.

Honestly, these soda taxes are ridiculous. There are plenty of worse vices and they don't pick on those.



If it's that big of a deal to you then you should probably just stop drinking soda then.



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Democrats..... making everyone's life worse in the name of doing good for all and taxing you more while they're at.



To be honest though, you really shouldn't drink soda if a couple of cents devastates you. Chances are you aren't exactly in the best (or healthiest) of conditions



spurgeonryan said:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-cook-county-soda-tax-preview-0625-biz-20170622-story.html

 

Currently it is only for Cook county, which is mostly Chicago and it's suburbs. The tax includes drinks with less that 50 percent milk, Soda, mixes that have sugar in them, juice, etc.

To go further the tax is not just a few cents per drink, it is a penny per ounce! How is that fair to anyone? This is not the same as sin tax which we have on tobacco and alcohol or the tax that is on ammunition. Those items are not something that everyone buys. You want a bad habit, then that is what you pay.

The sweetened beverage tax attacks everyone, including businesses in Cook county. It will cause such a large migration of shoppers that Cook county will lose more in sales tax than they will gain from suckers who are stuck paying this fee. By the way, the poor, whome I feel this tax should have been aimed at to help better their life, are not affected. Food stamps do not have sales tax.

Time will tell what the actual goal of this horrible tax. For now families across Illinois will have to suffer.

 

Thoughts?

Great idea, but needs to be nationwide to truly have the desired effect (and excluding foodstamps is stupid. I would, in fact, exclude soda from the foodstamp program). Still, it's a good initiative, I hope that it eases other states into implementing the same measures.

 

The negative impact of soda on the nation's helalth is beyond reasonable doubt. This could seriously improve insurance costs in the long run, as well.



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Taxes will do nothing to stop people from buying products. It just hurts consumers and companies over time - just like here in Canada.



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There aren't enough taxes in the US anyway so any additional tax on non essentials is a good thing. The sooner people learn this, the better.



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