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Here is a goid one to ponder:

We are in a games website, so i assume we are all fans of gaming.

If the afterlife is paradise for us... it would involve gaming right? You would still want to play the newest games.

But, without a body, that would be impossible as you can't touch the controllers. So... how can paradise be paradise and not torture for us?



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Pemalite said:
Call me when someone has empirical evidence for God, Satan, Heaven, Hell. Etc'. - Otherwise I'll continue to laugh at such tripe.

Call me when there's empirical evidence to the contrary. Otherwise I'll continue to laugh at such tripe



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Nem said:
Here is a goid one to ponder:

We are in a games website, so i assume we are all fans of gaming.

If the afterlife is paradise for us... it would involve gaming right? You would still want to play the newest games.

But, without a body, that would be impossible as you can't touch the controllers. So... how can paradise be paradise and not torture for us?

Simple. Follow Islam then in heaven you will always have a body in its prime. You won't sweat or excrete or egest or anything. You can eat what you want and do what you want. Plus even if you firstly go to hell you will ultimately end up in heaven. Even if there is an atom's worth or even a neutrino's worth of faith inside you will go to heaven eventually.



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Eagle367 said:
Pemalite said:
Call me when someone has empirical evidence for God, Satan, Heaven, Hell. Etc'. - Otherwise I'll continue to laugh at such tripe.

Call me when there's empirical evidence to the contrary. Otherwise I'll continue to laugh at such tripe

The Burden of proof doesn't work that way.

Otherwise I could claim that I own a pet dragon.
And you would have to believe me unless you have evidence that proves that I don't. Which would be impossible.

Ergo... It makes the entire thing stupid.



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Eagle367 said:
Nem said:
Here is a goid one to ponder:

We are in a games website, so i assume we are all fans of gaming.

If the afterlife is paradise for us... it would involve gaming right? You would still want to play the newest games.

But, without a body, that would be impossible as you can't touch the controllers. So... how can paradise be paradise and not torture for us?

Simple. Follow Islam then in heaven you will always have a body in its prime. You won't sweat or excrete or egest or anything. You can eat what you want and do what you want. Plus even if you firstly go to hell you will ultimately end up in heaven. Even if there is an atom's worth or even a neutrino's worth of faith inside you will go to heaven eventually.

Points for Islam! Except it makes you a mind slave in life and might compell you to blow yourself up in this promise. Very risky! 

Though you know... it also promises i don't remember how many, but many virgins for every man, and if thats not wishful thinking i dunno what is. How would that be paradise for the virgins aswell eh?



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Pemalite said:
Eagle367 said:

Call me when there's empirical evidence to the contrary. Otherwise I'll continue to laugh at such tripe

The Burden of proof doesn't work that way.

Otherwise I could claim that I own a pet dragon.
And you would have to believe me unless you have evidence that proves that I don't. Which would be impossible.

Ergo... It makes the entire thing stupid.

1. The existance of God can be attested in the concept of change. There must be an origin for all change. This prime mover is God.

2. Change always occurs in series of origin-causation. But there must be a first origin of this change, otherwise the series of causation and effect wouldn't be able to take place. Referring to number 1, this prime mover is God.

3. Things appear and dissapear in this world. Yet not everything can be this way, since there can not be a period when there was nothing, since something can't appear from nothing. Thus, there must be something that has always existed, being, God.

4. Some things occur with differing qualities. These differing qualities (in similar objects, beings) must come forth from something that has, ideally, the perfect amount of qualities. There must be something perfectly good, that causes other things to be good: God.

5. Everything strives towards an (ultimate) goal. The fact of having goals implies a spirit who poses the goals, that spirit is God.

I hope you find this awnser serious and satisfactory.



Eagle367 said:
Pemalite said:
Call me when someone has empirical evidence for God, Satan, Heaven, Hell. Etc'. - Otherwise I'll continue to laugh at such tripe.

Call me when there's empirical evidence to the contrary. Otherwise I'll continue to laugh at such tripe

Is this supposed to be a joke? Burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim and not the otherway around. 

Eagle367 said:
Nem said:
Here is a goid one to ponder:

We are in a games website, so i assume we are all fans of gaming.

If the afterlife is paradise for us... it would involve gaming right? You would still want to play the newest games.

But, without a body, that would be impossible as you can't touch the controllers. So... how can paradise be paradise and not torture for us?

Simple. Follow Islam then in heaven you will always have a body in its prime. You won't sweat or excrete or egest or anything. You can eat what you want and do what you want. Plus even if you firstly go to hell you will ultimately end up in heaven. Even if there is an atom's worth or even a neutrino's worth of faith inside you will go to heaven eventually.

So, you want us to believe in something that's not proven to be actually true. From all the religions and believes in deities out there, the one that YOU believe in has to be the true one, huh? Do you only believe because of the reward you get? Because your statement sounds like it. 

 



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WolfpackN64 said:
Pemalite said:

The Burden of proof doesn't work that way.

Otherwise I could claim that I own a pet dragon.
And you would have to believe me unless you have evidence that proves that I don't. Which would be impossible.

Ergo... It makes the entire thing stupid.

1. The existance of God can be attested in the concept of change. There must be an origin for all change. This prime mover is God.

2. Change always occurs in series of origin-causation. But there must be a first origin of this change, otherwise the series of causation and effect wouldn't be able to take place. Referring to number 1, this prime mover is God.

3. Things appear and dissapear in this world. Yet not everything can be this way, since there can not be a period when there was nothing, since something can't appear from nothing. Thus, there must be something that has always existed, being, God.

4. Some things occur with differing qualities. These differing qualities (in similar objects, beings) must come forth from something that has, ideally, the perfect amount of qualities. There must be something perfectly good, that causes other things to be good: God.

5. Everything strives towards an (ultimate) goal. The fact of having goals implies a spirit who poses the goals, that spirit is God.

I hope you find this awnser serious and satisfactory.

1. God of gaps argument. 

2. God of gaps argument.

3. Argument from ignorance -> God of gaps argument.

4. God of gaps argument

5. God of gaps argument

That was easy. 



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Ka-pi96 said:
WolfpackN64 said:

1. The existance of God can be attested in the concept of change. There must be an origin for all change. This prime mover is God.

2. Change always occurs in series of origin-causation. But there must be a first origin of this change, otherwise the series of causation and effect wouldn't be able to take place. Referring to number 1, this prime mover is God.

3. Things appear and dissapear in this world. Yet not everything can be this way, since there can not be a period when there was nothing, since something can't appear from nothing. Thus, there must be something that has always existed, being, God.

4. Some things occur with differing qualities. These differing qualities (in similar objects, beings) must come forth from something that has, ideally, the perfect amount of qualities. There must be something perfectly good, that causes other things to be good: God.

5. Everything strives towards an (ultimate) goal. The fact of having goals implies a spirit who poses the goals, that spirit is God.

I hope you find this awnser serious and satisfactory.

Dunno if this is a joke post or not, but assuming it's not.... every one of your points is flawed. Right at the beginning you say there needs to be an origin.... yet don't actually provide that origin. Since the thing you say is the origin of the universe would also need an origin, so you've contradicted yourself.

Not a joke, I'll refer you to point number 3 to awnser your question.



WolfpackN64 said:

1. The existance of God can be attested in the concept of change. There must be an origin for all change. This prime mover is God.

2. Change always occurs in series of origin-causation. But there must be a first origin of this change, otherwise the series of causation and effect wouldn't be able to take place. Referring to number 1, this prime mover is God.

3. Things appear and dissapear in this world. Yet not everything can be this way, since there can not be a period when there was nothing, since something can't appear from nothing. Thus, there must be something that has always existed, being, God.

4. Some things occur with differing qualities. These differing qualities (in similar objects, beings) must come forth from something that has, ideally, the perfect amount of qualities. There must be something perfectly good, that causes other things to be good: God.

5. Everything strives towards an (ultimate) goal. The fact of having goals implies a spirit who poses the goals, that spirit is God.

I hope you find this awnser serious and satisfactory.

That is just nonsensical, babble.

It's not a satisfactory or serious answer. I do believe you are tolling if you can't make a proper coherant reply though. But I'll give you the benefit of a doubt.

By the way. Do you have evidence that something cannot appear from nothing? Because I have evidence on the contrary.



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