Pemalite said:
Eagle367 said:
Call me when there's empirical evidence to the contrary. Otherwise I'll continue to laugh at such tripe
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The Burden of proof doesn't work that way.
Otherwise I could claim that I own a pet dragon. And you would have to believe me unless you have evidence that proves that I don't. Which would be impossible.
Ergo... It makes the entire thing stupid.
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1. The existance of God can be attested in the concept of change. There must be an origin for all change. This prime mover is God.
2. Change always occurs in series of origin-causation. But there must be a first origin of this change, otherwise the series of causation and effect wouldn't be able to take place. Referring to number 1, this prime mover is God.
3. Things appear and dissapear in this world. Yet not everything can be this way, since there can not be a period when there was nothing, since something can't appear from nothing. Thus, there must be something that has always existed, being, God.
4. Some things occur with differing qualities. These differing qualities (in similar objects, beings) must come forth from something that has, ideally, the perfect amount of qualities. There must be something perfectly good, that causes other things to be good: God.
5. Everything strives towards an (ultimate) goal. The fact of having goals implies a spirit who poses the goals, that spirit is God.
I hope you find this awnser serious and satisfactory.