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Good, interesting read. I honestly want Nintendo to completely unify their production again. There were so many diverse projects on the NES. I want to see a Nintendo not bound to making two installments of all their major franchises continuously (thus depleting time and resources for new/underused franchises). Nintendo could enter a new golden age under a unified platform.



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RolStoppable said:
potato_hamster said:
Why am I not surprised that the usuals are all over this thread refusing to accept the possibility that Nintendo might do anything other that what they believe Nintendo is doing. They even went so far to insult the OP for even suggesting that Nintendo might release a 3DS successor.

Man ohh man, how hilarious would it be if Nintendo actually does it.

OP. Your ideas have merit, and your points are valid. It's a legitimate possibility despite what others on this site might say.

It's not us who are in denial, it's people like you. When Pokémon Ultra Sun/Moon was announced, you were quick to beat the drum of Switch not being the successor to both the Wii U and 3DS. A week later the next big Pokémon title was announced for Switch, but apparently that doesn't count as evidence for there not being a separate 3DS successor.

People call you a Nintendo hater because you cling to remote possibilities that have a less than 1% likelihood to happen in order to cast doubt. This topic is exactly such a case. While the evidence is pointing towards Switch being the only Nintendo platform going forward, you can't help yourself and continue with your "It could play out differently. Mind you, I am not saying it will happen, I am only saying it could happen." If you have a habit of putting out bad case scenarios for Nintendo, then it shouldn't surprise you that you are perceived as a hater, because your behavior matches the behavior of a hater.

Good points, and totally agree. He will basically pass over very strong points and facts, and continue pushing his narrative that "Nintendo is stupid, and if it's logical that doesn't mean Nintendo will do that".



Miyamotoo said:
RolStoppable said:

It's not us who are in denial, it's people like you. When Pokémon Ultra Sun/Moon was announced, you were quick to beat the drum of Switch not being the successor to both the Wii U and 3DS. A week later the next big Pokémon title was announced for Switch, but apparently that doesn't count as evidence for there not being a separate 3DS successor.

People call you a Nintendo hater because you cling to remote possibilities that have a less than 1% likelihood to happen in order to cast doubt. This topic is exactly such a case. While the evidence is pointing towards Switch being the only Nintendo platform going forward, you can't help yourself and continue with your "It could play out differently. Mind you, I am not saying it will happen, I am only saying it could happen." If you have a habit of putting out bad case scenarios for Nintendo, then it shouldn't surprise you that you are perceived as a hater, because your behavior matches the behavior of a hater.

Good points, and totally agree. He will basically pass over very strong points and facts, and continue pushing his narrative that "Nintendo is stupid, and if it's logical that doesn't mean Nintendo will do that".

Great job completely once again completely mischaracterizing what I actually say on this site. If by "very strong points and facts" you mean  extremely positive assumptions based on little more than wishful thinking", then you might be a little more accurate. See what constitutes a "fact" is actually an objective thing. Ideas don't become facts just because you want them to. But I've also never said Nintendo is stupid, or even impled as such.



potato_hamster said

I don't think I've ever used the word "cunty" in my life, so no, I definitely didn't say that.

-Market research that showed Nintendo fans were *insert negative attribute*?

It's also the most expensive "portable-home combo" by default. I still believe it, and many of its accessories are overpriced. It's the main reason I do not currently own a Switch. It's going to have to shed at least $100 off the price before I'll get one.

-You bought a Switch didn't you?

I have never thought that, so I definitely haven't said it. I'm not even sure if I've ever talked about Mario Kart gameplay on this site. Perhaps you're confusing my argument that the weapon durability system for BotW is fundamentally. Even still, all that means is that I don't believe Nintendo (or anyone for that matter) makes perfect games. That doesn't mean I hate the game, or Nintendo.

-Unlimited shell/sword/shield hits. Same difference. I knew you wanted to break one of the most perfect games ever made, wasn't sure if it was BoTW or Mario Kart.

There are a bunch of reasons Nintendo would make a new 3DS, and one of those reasons is that Nintendo knows a large chunk of its fanbase are willing to buy multiple copies of the same game. I'm not sure why you think I thought that was the only reason.

-Whether it's remasters or portable versions, neither count as buying multiple copies of the same game. 

It's no wonder people like you think I hate Nintendo when you can't even get your facts straight about what I have and haven't said.. Even if I did say all of those things, how does any of that mean that I hate the company and, more importantly, don't buy their products. I've easily spent thousands of dollars  on Nintendo products over the course of my life time. That seems like an awful lot of money to spend on a form of entertainment I apparently hate.

-Like/hate whoever you want idc, just don't be suprised if you get called out on it when your reasoning boils down to 'Nintendo is greedy and dumb (+their fans are dumb enough to buy multiple copies of the same game) and anyone who disagrees is naive/deluded/looking for validation'.



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Took a while to read through all the points, and it does make sense. I wouldn't agree on everything, but I would hope that they focus foremost on the Switch, rather than releasing a successor to the 3DS in 2018 or 19 D:



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Pyro as Bill said:
potato_hamster said

I don't think I've ever used the word "cunty" in my life, so no, I definitely didn't say that.

-Market research that showed Nintendo fans were *insert negative attribute*?

It's also the most expensive "portable-home combo" by default. I still believe it, and many of its accessories are overpriced. It's the main reason I do not currently own a Switch. It's going to have to shed at least $100 off the price before I'll get one.

-You bought a Switch didn't you?

I have never thought that, so I definitely haven't said it. I'm not even sure if I've ever talked about Mario Kart gameplay on this site. Perhaps you're confusing my argument that the weapon durability system for BotW is fundamentally. Even still, all that means is that I don't believe Nintendo (or anyone for that matter) makes perfect games. That doesn't mean I hate the game, or Nintendo.

-Unlimited shell/sword/shield hits. Same difference. I knew you wanted to break one of the most perfect games ever made, wasn't sure if it was BoTW or Mario Kart.

There are a bunch of reasons Nintendo would make a new 3DS, and one of those reasons is that Nintendo knows a large chunk of its fanbase are willing to buy multiple copies of the same game. I'm not sure why you think I thought that was the only reason.

-Whether it's remasters or portable versions, neither count as buying multiple copies of the same game. 

It's no wonder people like you think I hate Nintendo when you can't even get your facts straight about what I have and haven't said.. Even if I did say all of those things, how does any of that mean that I hate the company and, more importantly, don't buy their products. I've easily spent thousands of dollars  on Nintendo products over the course of my life time. That seems like an awful lot of money to spend on a form of entertainment I apparently hate.

-Like/hate whoever you want idc, just don't be suprised if you get called out on it when your reasoning boils down to 'Nintendo is greedy and dumb (+their fans are dumb enough to buy multiple copies of the same game) and anyone who disagrees is naive/deluded/looking for validation'.

I'm sorry, is it a "neagtive attribute" to identify that Nitnendo fans tend to more supportive/loyal to Nitnendo than Sony or MS fans are for Sony or MS? If that's a negative thing to say, well I suggest you learn a bit more english.

I did buy a Switch, and Breath of the Wild. But I returned it afterwards because I realized I had nothing else I really wanted to play until Mario came out.  Since then I've gotten off the hype train and realized I can wait.

Ohh okay, so now it's completely valid to attack me for arguments I never made? Same difference? Nope. Sorry Bill. That's bullshit. If you think it's fair game for you to just make shit up and claim others said it, I can have a field day prentending you said some truly horrendous things. You monster. Fair, is fair, right Bill?

So let me get this straight, Three copies of Ocarina of Time, one each for the N64, Gamecube, and 3DS are not the same game to you? Incredible. I think that says all I need to say about Nintendo knowing what its fans will do.

Congrats on once again mischaracterizing what my opinion of Nintendo actually is. It's wonderful how you've stretched and skewed the opinions of anyone who doesn't agree with your thoughts on Nintendo  so that they are a horrible people in your mind. By all means, keep embarassing yourself.



potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:

Good points, and totally agree. He will basically pass over very strong points and facts, and continue pushing his narrative that "Nintendo is stupid, and if it's logical that doesn't mean Nintendo will do that".

Great job completely once again completely mischaracterizing what I actually say on this site. If by "very strong points and facts" you mean  extremely positive assumptions based on little more than wishful thinking", then you might be a little more accurate. See what constitutes a "fact" is actually an objective thing. Ideas don't become facts just because you want them to. But I've also never said Nintendo is stupid, or even impled as such.

You are now again pushing your narrative and passing over strong points and facts. Strong points and facts like fact that Nintendo merged their home console hardware and handheld hardware divisions, and fact they merged their home console software and handheld software divisions, fact that Nintendo talked and admitted they can't any more support effectively two different platforms, fact that Switch is already handheld in same time and point there is no reason at all to release another handheld platform or to continue with DS line alongside Switch. You basically deny all this facts and strong points that all point that almost certain Nintendo will not release different handheld platform or continue with DS line and that instead we will have Switch Mini/Pocket.

And like @RolStoppable wrote: "When Pokémon Ultra Sun/Moon was announced, you were quick to beat the drum of Switch not being the successor to both the Wii U and 3DS. A week later the next big Pokémon title was announced for Switch, but apparently that doesn't count as evidence for there not being a separate 3DS successor". That really tells alot about you and your narrative.



Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:

Great job completely once again completely mischaracterizing what I actually say on this site. If by "very strong points and facts" you mean  extremely positive assumptions based on little more than wishful thinking", then you might be a little more accurate. See what constitutes a "fact" is actually an objective thing. Ideas don't become facts just because you want them to. But I've also never said Nintendo is stupid, or even impled as such.

You are now again pushing your narrative and passing over strong points and facts. Strong points and facts like fact that Nintendo merged their home console hardware and handheld hardware divisions, and fact they merged their home console software and handheld software divisions, fact that Nintendo talked and admitted they can't any more support effectively two different platforms, fact that Switch is already handheld in same time and point there is no reason at all to release another handheld platform or to continue with DS line alongside Switch. You basically deny all this facts and strong points that all point that almost certain Nintendo will not release different handheld platform or continue with DS line and that instead we will have Switch Mini/Pocket.

And like @RolStoppable wrote: "When Pokémon Ultra Sun/Moon was announced, you were quick to beat the drum of Switch not being the successor to both the Wii U and 3DS. A week later the next big Pokémon title was announced for Switch, but apparently that doesn't count as evidence for there not being a separate 3DS successor". That really tells alot about you and your narrative.

Man this is ridiculous. I've never denied any of the actual facts you posted above, but some of the things you posted above are actually your opinion. But that's par for the course for the likes of you - treating your opinion as facts and expecting others to. There are many ways to interpret the actual facts you posted above that actually do lead to Nintendo releasing a 3DS successor, but you refuse to accept that possibility, and then have the audacity to say that I am in denial? Don't kid yourself. Your interpretation of the facts is just that - your interpretation. It is in no way the only way to interpret them, despite what your arrogant authoritarian posturing suggests.

As for what RolStoppable wrote, again that's more hyperbolic bullshit. I never said that the Switch isnt the successor to the Wii U and 3DS. I've never once made that claim in spite many of you claim I have.  I simply laughed how many of you thought it was so fucking obvious that Nintendo was announcing a core pokemon game for the Switch in that Direct. Sorrynotsorry for rubbing your shit-eating arrogance in your faces, because it's obvious to anyione that the collective lot of you don't know nearly as much as you think you do when it comes to Nintendo, yet you continue to act like you know everything, and anyone who dares question you is an ignorant pleeb. The first actual legitimate evidence that there may not be a 3DS successor was the core pokemon announcement at E3, and even then, that might not turn out to be the game you think it is. Of course, once again, this is yet another example of arrogant exclamations that your interpretation of the fact is the only possible correct one. But let's not let reality get in the way of your fucking tunnel vision.

I mean what the fuck happens if Nintendo actually comes out and announces a 3DS successor? You, and the others on this site that act like such authorities on all things Nintendo what I wrote might as well commit seppuku in front of Nintendo's headquarters, because you and I both know there's no coming back from that. You might as well quit the site if that day comes.



Why would anyone buy a 2nd Nintendo portable line?

In a year they'll be able to easily offer a Tegra X2 Switch which is smaller and has double the battery life of the current Switch. So there goes your "yeah but battery life and system size is a problem) arguement. 

So what exactly would be the appeal of a DS3/Game Boy? Switch would get all the main Nintendo IP, it's already confirmed for the next mainline Pokemon RPG too. And Switch will scale down in cost too over time. So it'll be $199.99 in a few years. So there goes your price arguement. 

I mean they can do whatever they want ... I just don't see who would buy it. People who are cheap and don't want to spend much on portable gaming are mostly going to play on smartphones/tablets.

More likely IMO they scale the current Switch down to replace the 3DS, and then release a higher end Switch with PS4/XBOne performance + VR ability in 2020 or so (Tegra X3 processor) for take over the higher end $300 price bracket. Older Switch model continues to sell at $199.99. 

So all you'll see is a continual flush of the high end model becoming the cheap model and a new model replacing the former high end model. That way Nintendo continues to get in effect a "dual pillar" hardware setup that they have now with the Switch + 3DS, but they still get all the benefits of a unifed library (large singular userbase that all their IP games can sell to rather than being split up in two, unified dev resources for more games on one platform).



Soundwave said:

Why would anyone buy a 2nd Nintendo portable line?

In a year they'll be able to easily offer a Tegra X2 Switch which is smaller and has double the battery life of the current Switch. So there goes your "yeah but battery life and system size is a problem) arguement. 

So what exactly would be the appeal of a DS3/Game Boy? Switch would get all the main Nintendo IP, it's already confirmed for the next mainline Pokemon RPG too. And Switch will scale down in cost too over time. So it'll be $199.99 in a few years. So there goes your price arguement. 

I mean they can do whatever they want ... I just don't see who would buy it. People who are cheap and don't want to spend much on portable gaming are mostly going to play on smartphones/tablets.

More likely IMO they scale the current Switch down to replace the 3DS, and then release a higher end Switch with PS4/XBOne performance + VR ability in 2020 or so (Tegra X3 processor) for take over the higher end $300 price bracket. Older Switch model continues to sell at $199.99. 

So all you'll see is a continual flush of the high end model becoming the cheap model and a new model replacing the former high end model. That way Nintendo continues to get in effect a "dual pillar" hardware setup that they have now with the Switch + 3DS, but they still get all the benefits of a unifed library (large singular userbase that all their IP games can sell to rather than being split up in two, unified dev resources for more games on one platform).

It honestly feels like a lot of people clamouring for a new handheld just want to selfishly keep dual screen gaming or want something they can stuff into their pockets while maintaining handheld exclusives.  It's like they don't care about the consequences of splitting developer resources again or adding to game development cycles as long as they get what they want.