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Do you only play narrative games?

Yes 162 39.61%
 
No 247 60.39%
 
Total:409
NawaiNey said:
LethalP said:
Same here. It's like all of Sony's studios thought 'if Naughty Dog can do it, so can we', but nah, it doesn't work like that. What you end up getting is Sub-Ubisoft action adventures with nothing new brought to the table. Anyone expecting Days Gone to be anything more than what EA or Ubisoft ship out on an annual basis is to be dissappointed, trust me.

Santa Monica will undoubtedly fail at trying to be as clever as Naughty Dog when it comes to subtext in the characters and stuff like that, in that bracket only Rockstar fly with ND. SM don't have a history with well told stories and good character writing, why should I be excited about this games story? They've fucked with the gameplay and give us Ryse 2, it's insane.

On the other hand Sony's consoles get a whole lot more than their studios stuff, and thank God for that, because the truth of the matter is Sony's studios just aren't that good.

I'm willing to bet by the time this generation is over Sony studios will have the most 90+ rated games on metacritic, and also the most number of new hit IPs. Sony has the best studios in the industry right now by a huge margin.

Nintendo have the best studios in the industry. Watch the two Goty contenders be Zelda and Mario, just the way it's going to be. Horizon might win Goty at Kinda Funny Games or Push Square, but the industry at large will favor Nintendos stuff, because Nintendo have more creative developers, that's truth mayne.

Now when you say Sony's studios, From Software, Insomniac, Atlus don't count. And literally when you take Uncharted 4 out of the picture, none of Sony's studios have a 90+ metacritic game this gen. Nintendo have had 4 since 2012, Sony have had 1 since 2013. There's literally no evidence to support that Sony's studios are the best by any margin, huge or not. At least some exists for Nintendo, hell, Blizzard alone has more 90+ metacritic games released this gen than all of Sony's studios. GoW might do it because muh flagship franchise, The Last Of Us 2 definately will (which will probably be genuinely awesome) but beyond those two, what else? Fucking Days Gone?

Playstation 4 is the best console this gen, but it's not because of Sony's internal studios.



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I guess I am just fine with it. They have so many different games that cover pretty much anything anyone could want to play that I don't get why someone would have an issue with their direction. God Of War definitely needed a new direction and this is welcomed so I am all for it. Can't wait to see what the gameplay feels like when we get it.

Looking at it compared to TLOU they definitely look like two completely different games as far as gameplay goes. Other than the camera angle and being story driven I don't get why there is an issue. Days gone does remind you of TLOU but with the way the zombies move and the infected animals it looks like a totally different game as well.

As long as Sony continues to cover every base as they have always done then I am all for a new direction and start on certain games. So I guess I am good to go lol.



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Veknoid_Outcast said:

GOWTLOZ, we disagree a lot (always respectfully, of course), but on this point I agree.

I regret that Sony is making the Naughty Dog model THE model moving forward. During E3, God of War looked like The Norse of Us. Days Gone looked like a TLoU spin-off. For me, the worst parts of games like Uncharted and TLoU are the on-rails, scripted sequences that grant the illusion of player choice but in reality are just a vehicle to tell a story and spark some emotional reaction. The BEST parts of those games are when the developers take a break from self-aggrandizement and actually trust the player to create on his or her own. I'm talking about improvisational combat, open-ended stealth sequences, combat in 360 degrees, etc.

It sounds and looks like Sony wants to push forward on the linear, story-driven parts. This, to me, is a downer. Now, I respect the opinion of those who play games for deep, emotionally-powerful storytelling. I'm glad there are games out there for those folks. But as someone who loves God of War (for its mechanics, not its story) and someone who enjoys parts of Uncharted and TLoU, I selfishly want those games to value the output of the player first and not the output of the script writer or the art director.

Glad we agree overall. Couple of things though:

God of War will have exploration, will not be scripted, and its always been narrative focussed. What I don't like about it here is that they are going for Naughty Dog like narrative, but what I really liked about God of War's narrative was its amazingly well written script that felt like a novel rather than a movie, and its bold stance on making unlikeable cast of characters around which its story was centred, yetr doing all of them justice.

My main problem then? The other developers wouldn't be able to do it as well, in my opinion, and that I expect other kind of games from Sony's developers that aren't SSM, ND, GG. I like Infamous for the gameplay, if say they were to make that more story focussed it could have negative effects on the game itself. That's what I'm against here. Also that makes all these games too similar and at one point I would get tired of them, if they keep serving me the same dishes every meal, every day of the week.

Also, they are looking more towards open world game actually, so you're wrong there. Rest I agree with.

Flilix said:
GOWTLOZ said:

I'm only going by what Jim Ryan said in his interview.

The poll doesn't make much sense. Pretty much everyone plays games that are less narrative focused (some people more than others).

The PS4 will still be getting more than enough games with less story.

Clearly everyone does not, look at all the people choosing yes in the poll.



I have no clue what the narrative is in Nex Machina, so No to the poll. As for more story driven single player games, I have no problem with those. Yet I'll have to play the new GoW first before I can make up my mind whether I like the new direction. No more qte is progress. At least the combat is not narrative driven aka scripted anymore!



I love what Sony is doing. Personally I feel that 3rd party isn't doing this enough. Which is fine because that gives more variety.



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i'm happy with it

recently and in the near future they have a good amount of new IP, they have third person action games, both linear and open world, they have a racing sim, multiple platformers, sports games, a narrative focused adventure game, they have RPGs

i don't see the need for multiplayer focused games aside from a few here in there in the current climate. I think one of the reasons that even Microsoft's biggest franchises, Gears and Halo, have seen some decline is because where they were once up there with the best multiplayer games, they don't really stand out anymore. When there is CoD, Battlefield, Battlefront, Destiny etc with constant DLC and updates or yearly releases, making an exclusive AAA multiplayer focused game is risky and not particularly worth it imo. Unless you make it really stand out, like with Splatoon, but those kind of games are rare



SvennoJ said:
I have no clue what the narrative is in Nex Machina, so No to the poll. As for more story driven single player games, I have no problem with those. Yet I'll have to play the new GoW first before I can make up my mind whether I like the new direction. No more qte is progress. At least the combat is not narrative driven aka scripted anymore!

Scripted combat? Where did that come from. God of War's combat wasn't scripted at all, only the finishers, much like Mortal Kombat's fatalities. And like those, it was optional in all cases except for boss battles.



LethalP said:
NawaiNey said:

I'm willing to bet by the time this generation is over Sony studios will have the most 90+ rated games on metacritic, and also the most number of new hit IPs. Sony has the best studios in the industry right now by a huge margin.

Nintendo have the best studios in the industry. Watch the two Goty contenders be Zelda and Mario, just the way it's going to be. Horizon might win Goty at Kinda Funny Games or Push Square, but the industry at large will favor Nintendos stuff, because Nintendo have more creative developers, that's truth mayne.

Now when you say Sony's studios, From Software, Insomniac, Atlus don't count. And literally when you take Uncharted 4 out of the picture, none of Sony's studios have a 90+ metacritic game this gen. Nintendo have had 4 since 2012, Sony have had 1 since 2013. There's literally no evidence to support that Sony's studios are the best by any margin, huge or not. At least some exists for Nintendo, hell, Blizzard alone has more 90+ metacritic games released this gen than all of Sony's studios. GoW might do it because muh flagship franchise, The Last Of Us 2 definately will (which will probably be genuinely awesome) but beyond those two, what else? Fucking Days Gone?

Playstation 4 is the best console this gen, but it's not because of Sony's internal studios.

One GOTY won't make Nintendo devs the best. In the last 10 years Sony has won the majority of GOTY awards 4 times while Nintendo has done it Zero times. There's always strong contenders for GOTY every year even if they don't win the majority of them which is also not the case with Nintendo. Sony studios surpassed Nintendo long time ago, get with the times.



aLkaLiNE said:
I agree. The last guardian, dreams, God of war, driveclub, ratchet & clank, horizon zero dawn, GT sport, they are all too much like the last of us.

God of War 4 looks like it's inspired by The Last of Us....



GOWTLOZ said:

Flilix said:

The poll doesn't make much sense. Pretty much everyone plays games that are less narrative focused (some people more than others).

The PS4 will still be getting more than enough games with less story.

Clearly everyone does not, look at all the people choosing yes in the poll.

???

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Neither do I understand what you're saying. Care to explain a bit more?

So, what I was trying to say, was that pretty much everyone plays both narrative and non-narrative games. The OP is perfectly fine (although I think you're making much ado about nothing). However, the poll is a bit confusing and irrelevant. If people would answer directly to the question in the poll, pretty much everyone would answer 'yes'. But you're poll doesn't represent the OP well: a lot of people are fine with the direction Sony is going, but that doesn't mean these people only play narrative games.