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How important is a singleplayer & good story for you?

Incredibly important! I l... 212 82.81%
 
Its important for me. 26 10.16%
 
I only play multiplayer (online) games. 6 2.34%
 
See results 12 4.69%
 
Total:256
Angelv577 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Nailed it. Probably why I have drifted away from PlayStation consoles being my main console the last couple generations. I have grown tired of the cinematic narrative games. I'd love to see what a studio as talented as Naughty Dog could do making a dedicated MP title or a straight action game. I see stuff like Detroit and now Days Gone based on the E3 video and I just could not be less interested.

I understand that you prefer those kind of games while I prefer Sony approach but the reality is that ps4 and xb1 are already very similar by sharing 90% of the library, why ask the same kind of games on both platform? Let them have some differentiation between them.  

Because everything must be of my taste. All games must be made with me as main and perhaps sole customer.



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Angelv577 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Nailed it. Probably why I have drifted away from PlayStation consoles being my main console the last couple generations. I have grown tired of the cinematic narrative games. I'd love to see what a studio as talented as Naughty Dog could do making a dedicated MP title or a straight action game. I see stuff like Detroit and now Days Gone based on the E3 video and I just could not be less interested.

I understand that you prefer those kind of games while I prefer Sony approach but the reality is that ps4 and xb1 are already very similar by sharing 90% of the library, why ask the same kind of games on both platform? Let them have some differentiation between them.  

Because that's what I like?

They're welcome to do different things, as a consumer I just won't buy it.



Just the words I wanted to hear. Sony is one of the last giants still doing single player. Enjoy and cherish it while it lasts, you will miss them when everything becomes about loot boxes, services(ie milk the shit out of game(r)s), and Destiny clones. Threads in 2030: "Remember games like MGS, TLOU and SotC?"

It's good that Sony(and their Japanese partners) keep scoring by being a very traditional games company. They really seem to know what hardcore Playstation enthusiasts want: blockbuster AAA games, Japanese games, the right kind of remasters, remakes, and localizations, and sign gaming's greatest auteurs (Hideo Kojima, Yu Suzuki). With people like Mark Cerny, and Shu Yoshida (who platinum'd Bloodborne) it's not hard to see why, they're gamers themselves.

Who else does passion projects like The Last Guardian and Gravity Rush 2, on top of pumping out AAA titles? Who else would bring Yakuza overseas? Certainly not Reggie, he waited on Europe and see how it sold there before bringing it to America, despite NoA being a much bigger operation.

Sony keeps on delivering, they don't have a exec like Phil Spencer making empty statements about how important 1st party is, and then the output gets worse each year.

Veknoid_Outcast said:
This is the main reason I'm slowly drifting away from PlayStation. Sony's focus on character, emotion, and storytelling is at an all-time high and my investment at an all-time low.

I'm glad there are folks out there whose needs are being met by Sony's current design philosophy. Diversity in the industry is a great thing, and not every platform needs to offer the same kinds of gaming experiences.

But, selfishly, I wish PlayStation would retreat from its cinematic ambitions.

Sony's SP focus doesn't hinder you from playing MP games on their platform. It's not a zero sum game. This is what's great about PS4, it has everything.  I can play Uncharted, Horizon and then switch to FF14, Overwatch or Titanfall 2.

PS4 has the most diverse games library of the current gen and saying it's only delivering cinematic experiences is just ignorant.



Turkish said:

Just the words I wanted to hear. Sony is one of the last giants still doing single player. Enjoy and cherish it while it lasts, you will miss them when everything becomes about loot boxes, services(ie milk the shit out of game(r)s), and Destiny clones. Threads in 2030: "Remember games like MGS, TLOU and SotC?"

It's good that Sony(and their Japanese partners) keep scoring by being a very traditional games company. They really seem to know what hardcore Playstation enthusiasts want: blockbuster AAA games, Japanese games, the right kind of remasters, remakes, and localizations, and sign gaming's greatest auteurs (Hideo Kojima, Yu Suzuki).

Who else does passion projects like The Last Guardian and Gravity Rush 2, on top of pumping out AAA titles? Who else would bring Yakuza overseas? Certainly not Reggie, he waited on Europe and see how it sold there before bringing it to America.

Sony keeps on delivering, they don't have a exec like Phil Spencer making empty statements about how important 1st party is, and then the output gets worse each year.

Veknoid_Outcast said:
This is the main reason I'm slowly drifting away from PlayStation. Sony's focus on character, emotion, and storytelling is at an all-time high and my investment at an all-time low.

I'm glad there are folks out there whose needs are being met by Sony's current design philosophy. Diversity in the industry is a great thing, and not every platform needs to offer the same kinds of gaming experiences.

But, selfishly, I wish PlayStation would retreat from its cinematic ambitions.

Sony's SP focus doesn't hinder you from playing MP games on their platform. It's not a zero sum game. This is what's great about PS4, it has everything.  I can play Uncharted, Horizon and then switch to FF14, Overwatch or Titanfall 2.

PS4 has the most diverse games library of the current gen and saying it's only delivering cinematic experiences is just ignorant.

A few other people have made the incorrect assumption that I'm complaining about Sony's cinematic pretensions because I favor multiplayer experiences. That's not the case. I much prefer single-player content. I just value player agency, and the demands of cinematic storytelling by nature chip away at player agency. 

I'm aware of the diversity on PS4 and PSV. I acknowledged it above in my reply to Zekk. I regularly play both systems. I beat Metro Redux last night on PS4 and I'm downloading Tokyo Xanadu on PSV as I write. No need to call me ignorant. My tastes are just different from yours. That's all.



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Veknoid_Outcast said:
Turkish said:

Just the words I wanted to hear. Sony is one of the last giants still doing single player. Enjoy and cherish it while it lasts, you will miss them when everything becomes about loot boxes, services(ie milk the shit out of game(r)s), and Destiny clones. Threads in 2030: "Remember games like MGS, TLOU and SotC?"

It's good that Sony(and their Japanese partners) keep scoring by being a very traditional games company. They really seem to know what hardcore Playstation enthusiasts want: blockbuster AAA games, Japanese games, the right kind of remasters, remakes, and localizations, and sign gaming's greatest auteurs (Hideo Kojima, Yu Suzuki).

Who else does passion projects like The Last Guardian and Gravity Rush 2, on top of pumping out AAA titles? Who else would bring Yakuza overseas? Certainly not Reggie, he waited on Europe and see how it sold there before bringing it to America.

Sony keeps on delivering, they don't have a exec like Phil Spencer making empty statements about how important 1st party is, and then the output gets worse each year.

Sony's SP focus doesn't hinder you from playing MP games on their platform. It's not a zero sum game. This is what's great about PS4, it has everything.  I can play Uncharted, Horizon and then switch to FF14, Overwatch or Titanfall 2.

PS4 has the most diverse games library of the current gen and saying it's only delivering cinematic experiences is just ignorant.

A few other people have made the incorrect assumption that I'm complaining about Sony's cinematic pretensions because I favor multiplayer experiences. That's not the case. I much prefer single-player content. I just value player agency, and the demands of cinematic storytelling by nature chip away at player agency. 

I'm aware of the diversity on PS4 and PSV. I acknowledged it above in my reply to Zekk. I regularly play both systems. I beat Metro Redux last night on PS4 and I'm downloading Tokyo Xanadu on PSV as I write. No need to call me ignorant. My tastes are just different from yours. That's all.

Then why are you drifting away from Playstation? It's not all about cinematic games on PS4.



I love good story drive games, hence I'm looking forward to playing Starchild. A cinematic 2D platformer in VR, very curious how that turns out.



Turkish said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

A few other people have made the incorrect assumption that I'm complaining about Sony's cinematic pretensions because I favor multiplayer experiences. That's not the case. I much prefer single-player content. I just value player agency, and the demands of cinematic storytelling by nature chip away at player agency. 

I'm aware of the diversity on PS4 and PSV. I acknowledged it above in my reply to Zekk. I regularly play both systems. I beat Metro Redux last night on PS4 and I'm downloading Tokyo Xanadu on PSV as I write. No need to call me ignorant. My tastes are just different from yours. That's all.

Then why are you drifting away from Playstation? It's not all about cinematic games on PS4.

It's a slow drift, as I said. I'm just not as invested as I was in, say, 2001-2009, which for me were the glory years for the PS ecosystem.

With Ueda gone, Liverpool and Cambridge shuttered, and Sony executives waxing poetic about emotional storytelling, I'm starting to peel away. I wouldn't want to ditch PS4 entirely, as there are games from Atlus, From Software, Platinum, and Insomniac that simply aren't available elsewhere. But with the majority of PS4 third-party content playable on other platforms and/or skippable and with internal studios prioritizing narrative, I'm less invested now than I've ever been.



Veknoid_Outcast said:
Turkish said:

Then why are you drifting away from Playstation? It's not all about cinematic games on PS4.

It's a slow drift, as I said. I'm just not as invested as I was in, say, 2001-2009, which for me were the glory years for the PS ecosystem.

With Ueda gone, Liverpool and Cambridge shuttered, and Sony executives waxing poetic about emotional storytelling, I'm starting to peel away. I wouldn't want to ditch PS4 entirely, as there are games from Atlus, From Software, Platinum, and Insomniac that simply aren't available elsewhere. But with the majority of PS4 third-party content playable on other platforms and/or skippable and with internal studios prioritizing narrative, I'm less invested now than I've ever been.

So what kind of games do you want them to make? Their 1st party isn't all about cinematic games. Stuff like Journey, Dreams, The Last Guardian, Gravity Rush, Bound, Everybody's Golf, Housemarque titles, that's Sony too. I guess they just dont register as much in your memory because they dont get big marketing campaigns and hype cycles like their yuuuge triple A titles. Also, Playstation's strength never came from 1st party alone. Sony's 1st party hasn't been this strong, ever, not even during the PS2 era, but its strength has always been its variety of 1st and 3rd party games. It has games like Overwatch, if you can play it on other platforms, so what? It doesn't take away from PS4's variety. You make it sound like if a game is non-exclusive, it should be skipped on PS4.

And Ueda isn't gone, he just delivered The Last Guardian, what other platform gives you experiences like his games? None, he's 2nd party now, still able to design games for the PS brand. Sony has a penchant for auteurs like him, thats why TLG wasn't cancelled. He'll continue making games with the new arrangement, he designs and Sony handles development.

About Liverpool, WipEout Omega is here, maybe if you show support they'll see there's demand and make another one in the future.

The only thing I think is missing from Sony's line up is an arcade racer, if they only could bring Motorstorm back, Pacific Rift in current gen tech, jaws will drop. And maybe Jak 4 by Sanzaru or Bluepoint.



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