So you really misstyped X1X as X1S

Yeah.

Alot of you are forgetting that this is a XB1 console meant to play all Xbox games. The main reason why they went with 4k over 60 frames is because it throws off the balance on all MP games unlike 4k it doesnt effect the balance of games. If they go with the next gen CPU than they might aswell just call this the Next Box. Because why stop at Vega? Aslong as it does what it needs to do and doesnt have preformance problems like the Pro did when running games at a higher resolution and standard PS4s were holding a better framerate.

It's not reliably achieving 4k regardless if it is 30fps or 60fps either though.
Fact is... Affordable technology doesn't exist yet to even have a 4k, 30fps console yet. Scorpio is using a low-end CPU, with a mid-range GPU and only 12GB of Ram.

Next gen it might end up being possible, but even then it could be a struggle, we will have to wait and see.

As for Vega, I would hope next gen uses something that isn't old and outdated.

I agree technology isnt afforable yet. This machine is the best thing we could buy for $499. 

However remember a 6tf machine is rendering 1.3tf games. These games arent being made up from scratch using Pro or X1X hardware. Rendering 4k is actually easy. Its up to the Devs if they want true 4k or dail it back to add in some effects which might benefit the games more. Which is what we are seeing with Assassin Creed and Anthem.

Well as I have been tought here, a lot of times you can gain a lot more IQ on the effects and models than on the resolution (although the second is easier), so as long as the dev is doing their best it isn't a problem, now it's just to wait and see how much they'll put into X1X version.

It happens to the best of us

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I guess we'll see what mainstreamers think at launch....
Until then it's just speculation.... Now who knows come Christmas they might bundle it with a game or a free game pass three month trial or something...
But I personally don't think a $499 new console is expensive.... Especially not compared to other tech device such as phone TVs and even PCs the later not being optimized and miniaturized like an XoX at equal performance it should be way under 500.... Master race my bottom

I'm saying an equally performing PC should be cheaper considering the lack of engineering put into it to fit into a small compact box like althe XoX.... So calling a XoX expensive by any metric is just mainstreamer retard talk... Perception or consumer choices does not equate to truth....

False.
An equally performing PC should actually be more expensive.

You see... Consoles use consolidated hardware, the GPU is a part of the CPU, the memory controller is on the same chip feeding both...
There are no massive split memory pools or power delivery mechanisms.
There is no need for redundant ports and interconnects like Firewire, PCI-E Slots, extra Ram slots etc'.

Plus the PC tends to use large, multiple, transistor heavy chips on cutting edge frabrication process's which adds up to the costs.

So no. An equally performing PC should always be more expensive than a Console. It actually has more engineering put into it and the platform as a whole can do more and is compatible with more componentry.

The Xbox One X is expensive relative to it's competition. That literally cannot be denied.
Microsoft marketed it as a "True 4k" device when it blatantly isn't, it's only mid-range/low-end hardware.
There are no exclusives.

That is the truth.

I'll still be getting Scorpio, price isn't a big issue for me. I'm on the waiting list to get in the first wave of Pre-Orders, I'm not under any illusions on how anemic Scorpio's hardware is though.
Also have the Original Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One and several hundred games. Being a vocal criticizer isn't a bad thing you know.