IkePoR said:
Nautilus said:
Ir rather that you dont have arguments to write back and so you just pull "cant argue with blind fans" ridiculous argument?
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I could argue with you, sure. But it'd go in circles. We're clearly on opposite ends and if you look at this thread, most who don't have a hype boner realize this is just the next Mario game and not a series makeover like Breath of the Wild.
Think of a 30 second first look of these two games. In 30 seconds, Odyssey looks like a Mario game. In that same time, BotW had most people asking "this is Zelda?"
I could make the argument that using the possession ability to solve puzzles and the world being "ginormous with endless goodies and exploration" by saying the words "Banjo Tooie." While you don't possess enemies, you use Banjo and Kazooie's abilities and transform into other forms to solve the puzzles of the world and collect jiggies. And the worlds are so big that the N64 couldn't handle them, even with an expansion pack.
So I'll take your bait this time, but it's just to let you know there's no point in going on arguing - we're not going to change each others minds. Odyssey is creative and sure to be content rich, but it's not a genre defining, series REdefining that BotW is.
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I am not baiting you or anything.We are in a sales and discussion forum about videogames and everything related to it.If someone makes a claim that goes against what the OP is saying, I am expecting such user to be open to discuss about it, not simply brush off others opinions as inferior or as a "hype boner" effect.That kind of attitude will get you nowhere.
I could say that the first 30 seconds of Odyssey trailer has nothing to do with Mario(Im using the E3 trailer since thats the one that reveals the full scope of the game, or closer to it), since you start with a damn realistic dinosaur and Mario appear from inside him, but I see there is no convincing you with the atitude you got.As I said, the same you say about Mario could be said about Zelda.That dosent mean that they are not ambitious and masterpieces in their own right.
And for the record, I think that BOTW is as ambitious as Mario.The point Im trying to make is that is ridiculous to call other people, lets say delusional, just because you have the opinion that just because Mario feels like a natural evolution of Mario 64, it dosent deserve such a title.Discussion is not about changing minds, its about learning what others think, reaching some sort of concenssus if possible even if someone dosent personally like, and having fun.