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I get it- people are struggling to build a PC as strong as the Xbox one X for $500. Yes, I understand it also has a 4k player, vapor chamber cooling, and a free pass of xbox live. 

The truth is that the Xbox One X is an amazing deal. Even if everything isn't native 4k, you still are receiving the best bang-for-buck currently. However, this means little in the end.

I'm sure we all remember the PS3. It had this complicated CELL processor, ps2 support, a blu-ray drive, and wi-fi built in (the 360 didn't). This was badass, until we all saw the $599 pricetag. To make it worse, the PS3 was being sold at a loss. Sony eventually lost billions until they turned it around and made a more affordable (and slimmer) version.

Microsoft is in a deeper hole. Unlike Sony, they didn't have a very successful handheld. Also, they already have a cheaper version. Sony's current Pro version is also $100 cheaper, and can most likely take a $50 price cut. The One X can't- it's gaining little to no profit per unit sold. This is a big issue. 

As much as we can go on about how it's the greatest value, a $499 console simply isn't feasible. Even if it had some magical, revolutionary new feature (which it doesn't), it'd be close to impossible to try to gain any traction out of it. 

Even the Switch, which brought forward the hybrid concept, was criticized for being $299. Now imagine a mid-gen upgrade being $499 and failing to bring its biggest promise- true, native 4k gaming? 

 

The Switch is in its own market, so it matters little to the One X (along with PC). The Playstation however is just a nail to the coffin. The PS4 can continue to get cheaper as it stands with its versatile gaming library. I don't see te One X doing well in the long run. I'm sure it being near Christmas/Black Friday time will make it sell, but I can see the PS4/Switch doing well. Once Christmas season is over, I'm not exactly sure how well it will do.



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Yep, in terms of hardware I think the value of what you get is fine.
In terms of actual improved performance over the PS4pro in games? im not so sure.

And yep 499$ is a steep asking price.

"Microsoft is in a deeper hole. Unlike Sony, they didn't have a very successful handheld. Also, they already have a cheaper version. Sony's current Pro version is also $100 cheaper, and can most likely take a $50 price cut. The One X can't- it's gaining little to no profit per unit sold. This is a big issue. "

Yep 349$ vs 499$ and both do "4k" via checkerboarding.
Its a no brainer which most consumers will pick up in stores.

And thats without even mentioning the marketing rights playstation has, and the exclusive library. Things that could also effect which a consumer picks. I dont think Xbox One X will do much combat the sales of the PS4.



Not sure it is good value, Destiny two has been confirmed to be CPU bound. XOX is not strong enough, it's 1080p/30fps for launch.

6TF isn't going to be used, it's bottlenecked.



I don't think it will sell. We see PS4 Pro struggling so $100 more for a little more? Hm... Nope.



3DS, Wii, PSP, Vita, PS2, PS3, PS4 & Steam.

One thing about having a premium price. As time goes on and technology improves, the price can always go down.

To me, it's kinda a 2005 Xbox 360 Core/Arcade vs the regular and Elite models. They can advertise having the best versions and power and say "Starting at $250". People won't know that, to get the full advertised experience, it's $500 but you'll get them in the store.



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JRPGfan said:

Yep, in terms of hardware I think the value of what you get is fine.
In terms of actual improved performance over the PS4pro in games? im not so sure.

And yep 499$ is a steep asking price.

"Microsoft is in a deeper hole. Unlike Sony, they didn't have a very successful handheld. Also, they already have a cheaper version. Sony's current Pro version is also $100 cheaper, and can most likely take a $50 price cut. The One X can't- it's gaining little to no profit per unit sold. This is a big issue. "

Yep 349$ vs 499$ and both do "4k" via checkerboarding.
Its a no brainer which most consumers will pick up in stores.

And thats without even mentioning the marketing rights playstation has, and the exclusive library. Things that could also effect which a consumer picks. I dont think Xbox One X will do much combat the sales of the PS4.

nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7-9Izyuaxg



The thing that kills me is, and just so I have this straight. PC gaming is expensive, but buying 3 Xbox One consoles in the span of four years isn't?



RJ_Sizzle said:
The thing that kills me is, and just so I have this straight. PC gaming is expensive, but buying 3 Xbox One consoles in the span of four years isn't?

Don't forget the upgrade to a 4K TV



RJ_Sizzle said:
The thing that kills me is, and just so I have this straight. PC gaming is expensive, but buying 3 Xbox One consoles in the span of four years isn't?

I bought five already! Two as gifts and three I've kept. I'm getting an XB1X, too. PC gaming probably isn't too expensive but, in my head, it's just too complicated. I considered buying a PC a while back and people here told me which components to buy. Sounded like I was building a robot! 

 

Never did go that route. I like the idea of mods, though.



RJ_Sizzle said:
The thing that kills me is, and just so I have this straight. PC gaming is expensive, but buying 3 Xbox One consoles in the span of four years isn't?

Don't PC gamers buy a new $600 GPU every 6 months? :p
The difference is, you 'upgrade' your console, now you have two! It's cheaper to upgrade your PC though, if you don't go crazy.

It would be great value with another 6 to 10 year support for XbOX, yet what's going to happen with this gens refreshes when next gen starts remains to be seen. Ofcourse the ones buying these refershes don't expect to use them for 6 years, they'll be ready to upgrade again in another 2 or 3 years. The general consumer will simply buy the base version.