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Forums - Gaming Discussion - If it's on a Microsoft console AND the PC, it's an exclusive.

DonFerrari on 15 June 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DonFerrari said:
Going by Permalite definition and the existence of emulation there isn't exclusives.

How many times does emulation have anything to do with licensing?

Have no Idea... but apparently it's important to point out in all exclusivity discussion that emulation makes PC the only machine with exclusive content.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 15 June 2017
Bandorr said:
DonFerrari said:

Have no Idea... but apparently it's important to point out in all exclusivity discussion that emulation makes PC the only machine with exclusive content.

 

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Because every post talking about exclusives end in him saying "They will all end up on PC whether Sony likes it or not". Basically constantly bringing up that eventually ever game will get emulated on the PC.

And that is quite important for because.... no it isn't... First I like to play the 1st party close to launch and I don't really like to play on PC, it's quite troublesome to get a very good PC in Brazil, I don't have the right space to put it near my TV, all my PC have after sometime get a lot of trouble and needing cleaning and rebooting... So yes I couldn't care less about a PS game being emulated 5 to 10 years later to PC.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

S.T.A.G.E. on 15 June 2017
Bandorr said:
DonFerrari said:

Have no Idea... but apparently it's important to point out in all exclusivity discussion that emulation makes PC the only machine with exclusive content.

 

 

And that's the problem. You're listening to a statement that cares not about the legality of licensing or exclusivity. Lol this means the PC enthusiast does not care about the rights of the ip publisher.



DonFerrari on 15 June 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Bandorr said:

And that's the problem. You're listening to a statement that cares not about the legality of licensing or exclusivity. Lol this means the PC enthusiast does not care about the rights of the ip publisher.

Well. When we do talk about piracy they will show how much good it does to the industry... so a lot of pc gamers don't care as long as it benefits them (not saying this is the case of pemalite)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

S.T.A.G.E. on 15 June 2017
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

And that's the problem. You're listening to a statement that cares not about the legality of licensing or exclusivity. Lol this means the PC enthusiast does not care about the rights of the ip publisher.

Well. When we do talk about piracy they will show how much good it does to the industry... so a lot of pc gamers don't care as long as it benefits them (not saying this is the case of pemalite)

Anyone who thinks piracy is good for the industry is not a fan of market based economy 



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starcraft on 15 June 2017

It's almost self-evident that unless you're pirating Windows, Microsoft makes money, however indirectly, when you game on a PC.



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DonFerrari on 15 June 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DonFerrari said:

Well. When we do talk about piracy they will show how much good it does to the industry... so a lot of pc gamers don't care as long as it benefits them (not saying this is the case of pemalite)

Anyone who thinks piracy is good for the industry is not a fan of market based economy 

Well, most people have no knowledge of economy (although I know people that know economy that will defend piracy isn't a crime because when you do it you won't take an asset or property of the other party since you are only copying).

starcraft said:
It's almost self-evident that unless you're pirating Windows, Microsoft makes money, however indirectly, when you game on a PC.

Sure... buying a PC that comes with pre-installed windows that you bought because of work or gaming will net MS income on every game you bought.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

S.T.A.G.E. on 15 June 2017
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Anyone who thinks piracy is good for the industry is not a fan of market based economy 

Well, most people have no knowledge of economy (although I know people that know economy that will defend piracy isn't a crime because when you do it you won't take an asset or property of the other party since you are only copying

 

Piracy is a crime. It's called piracy because it denotes theft. On PC I'm there are tons of cd keys that can be generated too. This is why I like steam. It keeps things affordable and PC gamers get to enjoy their exclusives and multiplats while developers get something on the transaction.



DonFerrari on 15 June 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DonFerrari said:

Well, most people have no knowledge of economy (although I know people that know economy that will defend piracy isn't a crime because when you do it you won't take an asset or property of the other party since you are only copying

 

Piracy is a crime. It's called piracy because it denotes theft. On PC I'm there are tons of cd keys that can be generated too. This is why I like steam. It keeps things affordable and PC gamers get to enjoy their exclusives and multiplats while developers get something on the transaction.

Steam is another can of worm... will talk proudly of putting 1k on the RIG and then wait for games to be 5 usd to buy a ton and not even play it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

S.T.A.G.E. on 15 June 2017
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Piracy is a crime. It's called piracy because it denotes theft. On PC I'm there are tons of cd keys that can be generated too. This is why I like steam. It keeps things affordable and PC gamers get to enjoy their exclusives and multiplats while developers get something on the transaction.

Steam is another can of worm... will talk proudly of putting 1k on the RIG and then wait for games to be 5 usd to buy a ton and not even play it.

I'll admit that I've fallen into that trap before. Consoles have now gone into deep discount sales with steam now. This is what makes market based economics good. It creates competiton to fight for your dollar. Those dollars circulate into innovation.