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Kerotan said:
Nuvendil said:

Sorry, if that's their strategy they are really not paying attention.  XX is not a very popular entry at all, it will do mediocre on Switch in all regions, anyone with a brain can see that.  So they're portable entry for easy cash will crash and burn and there's a significant posibility that their console effort will come in well under expectations, assuming they are expecting they're typical sales.  The only smart option here was to have it simultaneously on BOTH PS4 and Switch.  If you want to screw someone over, screw over the console that still struggles to outsell the Wii U in Japan, not the new hotness that's flying off shelves and that you literally JUST ENTICED YOUR CORE FANS TO INVEST IN!  From a business standpoint, this is just an ignorance of the market.  And definitely don't cut out the portable aspect, the aspect that has propelled the franchise forward in your biggest region.

Oh and if Sony paid for this situation, they should have told Sony to shove it up their ass.  Short term cash isn't worth the risk to the one franchise that has saved their asses repeated for the better part of a decade.

They didn't tell Nintendo to shove it up their ass when they came swooping in to take the one title that would have kept the vita relevant in Japan. So why would they do it now.  

 

Nintendo portables have had enough MH recently.  MHX, MHS, MHXX all on 3DS aswell as MHXX on Switch.  A MH World (MH5) on Switch next spring is too much milking on Nintendo platforms.  

 

They're better off releasing a MHW/MH5 G/X version holiday 2018 on the Switch and ps4. That way they'll get the best of both worlds (pun intended). 

You mean the mythical deal had any evidence? And the obvious difference is that the 3DS still was a viable market decision, deal or no deal.  Restricting this to home consoles is not a good idea.  

And I doubt their fans on Switch would have cared if they got a true sequel. I guarantee you those who invested in a Switch anticipating some consistency will be miffed that they got XX, the most cash grabby of MonHun cash grabs, instead of a legit new game.  

So no, this still strikes me as foolish in every sense.  



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Nuvendil said:
Kerotan said:

They didn't tell Nintendo to shove it up their ass when they came swooping in to take the one title that would have kept the vita relevant in Japan. So why would they do it now.  

 

Nintendo portables have had enough MH recently.  MHX, MHS, MHXX all on 3DS aswell as MHXX on Switch.  A MH World (MH5) on Switch next spring is too much milking on Nintendo platforms.  

 

They're better off releasing a MHW/MH5 G/X version holiday 2018 on the Switch and ps4. That way they'll get the best of both worlds (pun intended). 

You mean the mythical deal had any evidence? And the obvious difference is that the 3DS still was a viable market decision, deal or no deal.  Restricting this to home consoles is not a good idea.  

And I doubt their fans on Switch would have cared if they got a true sequel. I guarantee you those who invested in a Switch anticipating some consistency will be miffed that they got XX, the most cash grabby of MonHun cash grabs, instead of a legit new game.  

So no, this still strikes me as foolish in every sense.  

Funny how it's a mythical deal for Nintendo but for big bad Sony the rumours are definitely true lol. 

 

I think you need to get over this whole switch fans got fucked over.  what about all the MH fans who bought a Vita thinking it would come there?  

 

And the difference here is capcom can release a portable version late in 2018/early 2019 if they want. Just accept the fact that the next mainline game is ps4 exclusive in Japan and multi in the west.  It's getting a nice big upgrade over the old 240p versions which is sweet too. 

 

As I said you'll get the next MH game after world (MH5) so Switch fans will get sorted out eventually. 



Kerotan said:
Nuvendil said:

You mean the mythical deal had any evidence? And the obvious difference is that the 3DS still was a viable market decision, deal or no deal.  Restricting this to home consoles is not a good idea.  

And I doubt their fans on Switch would have cared if they got a true sequel. I guarantee you those who invested in a Switch anticipating some consistency will be miffed that they got XX, the most cash grabby of MonHun cash grabs, instead of a legit new game.  

So no, this still strikes me as foolish in every sense.  

Funny how it's a mythical deal for Nintendo but for big bad Sony the rumours are definitely true lol. 

 

I think you need to get over this whole switch fans got fucked over.  what about all the MH fans who bought a Vita thinking it would come there?  

 

And the difference here is capcom can release a portable version late in 2018/early 2019 if they want. Just accept the fact that the next mainline game is ps4 exclusive in Japan and multi in the west.  It's getting a nice big upgrade over the old 240p versions which is sweet too. 

 

As I said you'll get the next MH game after world (MH5) so Switch fans will get sorted out eventually. 

No, I didn't say the Sony ones were true.  Just that if they were, it would be a really dumb deal to take.  Honestly, doubt they are true cause who money hats keeping a game AWAY from a platform rather than going for exclusivity?  

And I don't play MonHun.  This at this point is less about Switch fans getting screwed over, it's about MonHun fans who bought a Switch getting screwed over.  It's the Vita situation all over again since you keep on bringing it up.  Doing it again doesn't make it better, makes it worse.

This is all mainly about this being a bad business decision with no justification I can see that makes any sense.  As for releasing another version later, we'll see about that.  But I honestly think simultaneous releases across all platforms would have been better for all fans, all platforms, all companies.  



Nuvendil said:
Kerotan said:

Funny how it's a mythical deal for Nintendo but for big bad Sony the rumours are definitely true lol. 

 

I think you need to get over this whole switch fans got fucked over.  what about all the MH fans who bought a Vita thinking it would come there?  

 

And the difference here is capcom can release a portable version late in 2018/early 2019 if they want. Just accept the fact that the next mainline game is ps4 exclusive in Japan and multi in the west.  It's getting a nice big upgrade over the old 240p versions which is sweet too. 

 

As I said you'll get the next MH game after world (MH5) so Switch fans will get sorted out eventually. 

No, I didn't say the Sony ones were true.  Just that if they were, it would be a really dumb deal to take.  Honestly, doubt they are true cause who money hats keeping a game AWAY from a platform rather than going for exclusivity?  

And I don't play MonHun.  This at this point is less about Switch fans getting screwed over, it's about MonHun fans who bought a Switch getting screwed over.  It's the Vita situation all over again since you keep on bringing it up.  Doing it again doesn't make it better, makes it worse.

This is all mainly about this being a bad business decision with no justification I can see that makes any sense.  As for releasing another version later, we'll see about that.  But I honestly think simultaneous releases across all platforms would have been better for all fans, all platforms, all companies.  

Except this isn't the vita situation because vita never got any MH.  I know you're a big Switch fan but you really need to stop blowing this out of proportion.  

 

This year MHXX is on Switch.  Some would have slipped the 3DS version for this so it's needed. 

 

As I've said before capcom most likely have a portable version of world planned in Japan either holiday 2018 or early 2019. To me that's smart business because it gives the console and western push breathing room and then they'll get big handheld sales in Japan anyway later on. Best of both Worlds. 



Nuvendil said:
vivster said:

And Nintendo could've made a proper home console to make it way easier for 3rd parties. But we can't always have what we want. The question isn't IF something can run on the Switch but if it is viable to torture your devs to port a game that is running perfectly fine on 3 different platforms but has to be modded heavily to fit on a tiny ARM platform.

Oh *please*, give me a break.  This isn't some super game, it wouldn't even be a feat to put it on the Switch.  This is either stupidity or greed depending on the circumstances.  Period, end of story, full stop.  And I say that with full confidence not only due to the obvious evidence but because...this is Capcom.  And Capcom gonna Capcom.

The fuck? Do you even computer?

We're talking about 2 completely different architectures here and then vastly different hardware specs to top it off. Even if they used the same main engine to make the game there are still lots of other components that aren't as easily portable, especially when you make a giant jump from x86 to ARM. If they used an engine that is not compatible with the switch it's far far worse. You don't flick your fucking wand and push a few sliders when you port a game.

That is true especially for games with high graphical fidelity. MHW isn't Crysis but it's still far beyond Switch's capabilities. It can't even run at more than 30fps on way more powerful systems.

And how is this greed when you say yourself that they'll sell way less copies this way? If it actually costs them so much to port it to Switch that they are still better off by foregoing a few million copies, Nintendo might have fucked up here when it can't even entice one of its strongest supporters.

The other 3rd party games like RL and Skyrim run on potatoes anyway, which makes porting far easier as you have less trouble with optimizing.

Calling them greedy because they develop this game on "only" 3 platforms when all these years they only developed for a single platform is crazy. I guess they weren't stupid and greedy when they developed exclusively for Nintendo?

It's not stupid developers at fault here. It's fucking Nintendo as the only console manufacturer who deliberately goes against multiplatform development by making their platform so different from the rest that it just not viable to port to it anymore. Blame them for not bribing Capcom to keep MH as an exclusive.



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The funny thing about this is when I am reading the Media Create thread across all websites. People keeps telling us that it will not happen. It will stay to being a portable game because of Japan and then it happened. XD

Yes, I think Sony paid for it maybe a Marketing deal in the west. Its actually a win win for Capcom. They got their money but they can still create a MonHun for portable. MHXX for switch is one prime example of it. Do you think Capcom is stupid to just ignore the fans in Japan? It could be exclusive to Switch or a multi-plat with PS4. MHW is the test here.

It's kinda sad that some people here want it to bombed. It can actually sell good in Japan it is still a Mon Hun. Could sell 1 million in Japan. I also think it will sell well in Asian markets. Asian markets are slowly growing and Playstation is very popular brand here.



Mnementh said:
asqarkabab said:

Ok then its not a special game and the hype and praise for it is unjustified 

Actually I don't see any other game that does things similar. And it might not be everyones cup of tea (I for one don't get into jump&runs for instance), but that doesn't mean praise is unjustified. Because MonHun does well what it does.

Its like pokemon but with monsters



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vivster said:
Nuvendil said:

Oh *please*, give me a break.  This isn't some super game, it wouldn't even be a feat to put it on the Switch.  This is either stupidity or greed depending on the circumstances.  Period, end of story, full stop.  And I say that with full confidence not only due to the obvious evidence but because...this is Capcom.  And Capcom gonna Capcom.

The fuck? Do you even computer?

We're talking about 2 completely different architectures here and then vastly different hardware specs to top it off. Even if they used the same main engine to make the game there are still lots of other components that aren't as easily portable, especially when you make a giant jump from x86 to ARM. If they used an engine that is not compatible with the switch it's far far worse. You don't flick your fucking wand and push a few sliders when you port a game.

Oh, I don't know how often I tried to explain this to non-programmers, but we programmers have magic stuff called a compiler, that takes the  source-code and compiles it into different CPU-platforms without a problem. Why do you think Linux can run on so many different CPUs. They don't do everything new all the time. Windows could technically do that too, but they decided in management to stick to x86.

A bigger problem for games are different GPU-architectures. So you could say, porting from AMD to NVIDIA might be a problem. But in fact it isn't usually one for PC-games.



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asqarkabab said:
Mnementh said:

Actually I don't see any other game that does things similar. And it might not be everyones cup of tea (I for one don't get into jump&runs for instance), but that doesn't mean praise is unjustified. Because MonHun does well what it does.

Its like pokemon but with monsters

No, it isn't. And I can't see how you jumped to that conclusion.



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Bandorr said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
The funny thing about this is when I am reading the Media Create thread across all websites. People keeps telling us that it will not happen. It will stay to being a portable game because of Japan and then it happened. XD

Yes, I think Sony paid for it maybe a Marketing deal in the west. Its actually a win win for Capcom. They got their money but they can still create a MonHun for portable. MHXX for switch is one prime example of it. Do you think Capcom is stupid to just ignore the fans in Japan? It could be exclusive to Switch or a multi-plat with PS4. MHW is the test here.

It's kinda sad that some people here want it to bombed. It can actually sell good in Japan it is still a Mon Hun. Could sell 1 million in Japan. I also think it will sell well in Asian markets. Asian markets are slowly growing and Playstation is very popular brand here.

You think SONY paid for a game to come to PS4 along with xbox one AND PC? IF they paid for it - why is it coming both TWO different platforms?

And why didn't Nintendo pay for it to be "Exclusive". Why didn't Microsoft pay to have it exclusive?

If all it takes is money, Sony would be well behind both Nintendo AND Xbox.

According to the rumors. Sony paid for the game to NOT release on the Nintendo Switch and that it's PS4-exclusive in Japan. These rumours are several months older than the MHW announcment.



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