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Xbox One X will launch for $499

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TOO HIGH! 544 73.91%
 
Is actually a decent price 131 17.80%
 
For 4k gaming? Steal 61 8.29%
 
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binary solo said:
Sensible in the longterm perspective. Profitability of the Xbox is more important than number of units sold and it's clear XOS will be an important unit for entry-level buyers for a few years yet. They possibly looked at PS4 vs PS4P sales and realised that the premium unit is not going to supersede the base unit in sales volume, so there is no point trying to take a volume approach to XOX at the cost of profitability.

Yeah, either they looked at Sony or came to that conlusion themselves, because Sony seemed to reach that conclusion without any prior reference, and they were correct. Pro is selling just slightly better than they expected. Although MS are aiming at a slightly more hardcore audience than Sony perhaps. But I still think the audience is very limited.

People will say that XBOX is DOA, but if it meets MS's sales expectations, even if they are as low as Sony's expectations of the Pro, it will do what it was designed to do.
But at $499 there's a question if even 1 out of 5 Xbox units sold will be an Xbox X. Or whatever MS are expecting.



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hunter_alien said:
499$ was expected, but that was the point where I knew that MS wont gain any ground over Sony, not even the US. Also the retail exclusives for this Q4 seems a bit bare as well. I am now really curious if Sony will leave the PS4 in auto-pilot or go all-out tomorrow.

The machine looks awesome, but that ammount of money for a mid-gen upgrade 4 years into the console cycle is way to much.

Definitely agree.  This isn't going to hurt the PS4 at all.  And Sony is going to be cutting the price to $349 this year, too.  They could go $299 if they wanted to put the final nail in the Scorpio, but I only see a $50 cut, now.  But, that's still a $150 difference.  That's too much to justify the purchase for most consumers.  Especially with very few exclusives coming.

KazumaKiryu said:

499 dollars are a joke. And no "xbox one exclusive-game" looks like Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4 or the new God of War on the microsoft-press conferenz. So..why .. 4k and a new xbox-upgrade? It makes no sense. Microsoft might just want to make a lot of money, i think. 499 dollars ... really ?!

i vote for "tooo high".

And here's the big negative for the Scorpio.  It has no exclusive that is pushing the system to its limits, making a purchase more desirable.  And a lot of what they showed was indies that would look exactly the same on the Pro.  Or multiplats that are still going to look damn good on the Pro.

Crackdown 3 was supposed to be a graphics showcase, but I guess MS cut the budget, cause what they showed was not very impressive.  Generic even.



$499 with a Zen upgrade and all would be fine.

Hell, I'd take $499 with Zen and 4TF in a HEARTBEAT over $399 with Jaguar and 6TF. Resolution means less and less to me above 1080p, but high FPS would be nice. Sadly, both PS4P and X1X are still tied to Jag :/



I'm trying my hardest not to be a poor sport, but all the $399 talk right up through Geoff's tweets sure was amusing. This is the price I expected so it was yet one more nonsurprise at the conference. The compactness of the console is impressive, though.



Unpopular opinion...but I think this is a bit too expensive for what I want out of it.

Just my opinion though...I won't push it on anyone. :)



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for what it can do........ dirt cheap, it'd take over twice the cost to build a PC that can compare



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Super_Boom said:
Unpopular opinion...but I think this is a bit too expensive for what I want out of it.

Just my opinion though...I won't push it on anyone. :)

that's the general consensus . not really an unpopular opinion. 



Super_Boom said:
Unpopular opinion...but I think this is a bit too expensive for what I want out of it.

Just my opinion though...I won't push it on anyone. :)

That's the popular opinion. Most gamers will not buy an Xbox X. Not even most Xbox fans will.



Hiku said:
binary solo said:
Sensible in the longterm perspective. Profitability of the Xbox is more important than number of units sold and it's clear XOS will be an important unit for entry-level buyers for a few years yet. They possibly looked at PS4 vs PS4P sales and realised that the premium unit is not going to supersede the base unit in sales volume, so there is no point trying to take a volume approach to XOX at the cost of profitability.

Yeah, either they looked at Sony or came to that conlusion themselves, because Sony seemed to reach that conclusion without any prior reference, and they were correct. Pro is selling just slightly better than they expected. Although MS are aiming at a slightly more hardcore audience than Sony perhaps. But I still think the audience is very limited.

People will say that XBOX is DOA, but if it meets MS's sales expectations, even if they are as low as Sony's expectations of the Pro, it will do what it was designed to do.
But at $499 there's a question if even 1 out of 5 Xbox units sold will be an Xbox X. Or whatever MS are expecting.

The MS guys are smart enough to have come to that conclusion even before PS4P went on sale. But their conclusion has been well validated by PS4Ps share of over all PS4 sales. So I think they are probably more confident in their price point becaus of Sony's experience with PS4P, despite some disappointed Xbox fans who thought XOX could actually get Xbox to start winning the sales war. But to me it seems like MS taking a more mature approach to its position in console hardware and hopefully not engaging in the immature sales war.

As a business that is not the slightest bit reliant on Xbox hardware for profits, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being the number 2 console, even by a wide margin. So long as sales reach a level that helps MS's overall strategic objectives it doesn't really matter where they land in unit sales compared to PS and Nintendo. Sony and Nintendo on the other hand are far more reliant on console hardware install base for profitability. Nintendo is wholly reliant. So those companies need a higher critical mass of sales to meet strategic objectives than MS does. MS should see this lower KPI as a strength and realise that the effort needed to get the marginal benefit of selling 60 million consoles in a genetation compared to selling 40 million is really rather wasted.



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Kerotan said:

that's the general consensus . not really an unpopular opinion. 

 

Hiku said:

That's the popular opinion. Most gamers will not buy an Xbox X. Not even most Xbox fans will.

Dumb inside joke...the people that would get it don't seem to be here. :P



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