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CGI-Quality said:
Azuren said:

Well, if you wanna say it came after a PS5 announcement, then I'd say it needs to be an announcement. Showing prototype hardware and concept aren't the same as saying "Behold, the PlayStation 5". Sony admitted to the existence of next-gen, but they confirm the existence of next-gen early in every generation by admitting R&D is taking place for the next platform. Where are we going to draw the line?

We're drawing the line at the nod I gave him. :)

I suppose I would call that line debatable, but if you want to give him the nod based on where you draw the line, then I can't really judge you for me explicitly not giving him a nod based on my line. Agree to disagree.



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Azuren said:
CGI-Quality said:

We're drawing the line at the nod I gave him. :)

I suppose I would call that line debatable, but if you want to give him the nor based on where you draw the line, then I can't really judge you for me explicitly not giving him a note based on my line. Agree to disagree.

That could have been done without even having to initially quote me. ;)



                                                                                                             

CGI-Quality said:
Azuren said:

I suppose I would call that line debatable, but if you want to give him the nor based on where you draw the line, then I can't really judge you for me explicitly not giving him a note based on my line. Agree to disagree.

That could have been done without even having to initially quote me. ;)

Except now I know that it's a fundamental disagreement on definitions and not just wondering who received misinformation that could be corrected on either side.



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Azuren said:
CGI-Quality said:

To me, the mention of a few specs, and early footage showing a piece of what it will be capable of, is enough to give the nod to his prediction.

Well, if you wanna say it came after a PS5 announcement, then I'd say it needs to be an announcement. Showing prototype hardware and concept aren't the same as saying "Behold, the PlayStation 5". Sony admitted to the existence of next-gen, but they confirm the existence of next-gen early in every generation by admitting R&D is taking place for the next platform. Where are we going to draw the line?

We got a little more than prototype and concept. And even if it was as you said, would be the first time I remember seeing a next gen sucessor being show presented/confirmed this way. So it on a being nice to shadow it is acceptable to consider that an announcement of PS5. And saying that a name have been given on the case of PS5 is funny since there is probably 99:1 chance of it being PS5.



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Azuren said:
CGI-Quality said:

That could have been done without even having to initially quote me. ;)

Except now I know that it's a fundamental disagreement on definitions and not just wondering who received misinformation that could be corrected on either side.

Information you got in my first reply to you, yet, you continue to quote me as if there's a need for further confirmation of sorts. 



                                                                                                             

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DonFerrari said:
Azuren said:

Well, if you wanna say it came after a PS5 announcement, then I'd say it needs to be an announcement. Showing prototype hardware and concept aren't the same as saying "Behold, the PlayStation 5". Sony admitted to the existence of next-gen, but they confirm the existence of next-gen early in every generation by admitting R&D is taking place for the next platform. Where are we going to draw the line?

We got a little more than prototype and concept. And even if it was as you said, would be the first time I remember seeing a next gen sucessor being show presented/confirmed this way. So it on a being nice to shadow it is acceptable to consider that an announcement of PS5. And saying that a name have been given on the case of PS5 is funny since there is probably 99:1 chance of it being PS5.

Was any of the technology used still in development? I'm fairly certain I read that SSD they were using was still in late stage development. That would make any model they're using still technically prototype. It wasn't the announcement of a PS5, it was just a showcase for some of the tech they intended on using. Yes, confirmation that a new console is coming. No, I don't find it to be a proper announcement.



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CGI-Quality said:
Azuren said:

Except now I know that it's a fundamental disagreement on definitions and not just wondering who received misinformation that could be corrected on either side.

Information you got in my first reply to you, yet, you continue to quote me as if there's a need for further confirmation of sorts. 

Probably the same reason as you, I have a hard time not replying to people when they quote me.



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Azuren said:
CGI-Quality said:

Information you got in my first reply to you, yet, you continue to quote me as if there's a need for further confirmation of sorts. 

Probably the same reason as you, I have a hard time not replying to people when they quote me.

It's simple. Just don't reply to this post. 



                                                                                                             

Azuren said:
DonFerrari said:

We got a little more than prototype and concept. And even if it was as you said, would be the first time I remember seeing a next gen sucessor being show presented/confirmed this way. So it on a being nice to shadow it is acceptable to consider that an announcement of PS5. And saying that a name have been given on the case of PS5 is funny since there is probably 99:1 chance of it being PS5.

Was any of the technology used still in development? I'm fairly certain I read that SSD they were using was still in late stage development. That would make any model they're using still technically prototype. It wasn't the announcement of a PS5, it was just a showcase for some of the tech they intended on using. Yes, confirmation that a new console is coming. No, I don't find it to be a proper announcement.

Eeeeerrrrr until like 3-6 months before the console actually release it is still in development.

You can bet devs already have the intended specs (which can change just like PS4 had a double RAM that only first party knew because it was very near the launch of the console) and it isn't unusual that they would already have intended dev kits, but also not unusual that the final dev kit is delivered very near the launch as well. I remember case of it being finished after the HW was already out.

So even PS4 that was revealed in Feb and launched in Nov wasn't totally finished, from what I remember there wasn't even any game show in the event.

All together we can safely say that PS5 and nextbox were formally announced.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

CGI-Quality said:
Azuren said:

Probably the same reason as you, I have a hard time not replying to people when they quote me.

It's simple. Just don't reply to this post. 

I legitimately can't tell if that's a user request or a mod order.



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