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thismeintiel said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

I agree with this and even though the titles says outsell the Wii the OP says shipments only so I just wanted to point that out because people got lost in the title and kept saying outsell when it should be outship......so the thread title needs to be changed imo. But I am more curious to know why you think the PS4 sales will just completely plummet next year? You think it will have a 50% drop? Wow now if that does happen great prediction but I just can't see sales dropping THAT much next year.....

Also as for the Horizon thing.....I think it sold 3.4 million before the end of June if I am not mistaken. And if you said 3 million max for HZD sales then you under estimated it more than a bit.......lastly I am almost 100% sure it will exceed 4 million when it is all said and done.....there is no probably to it.

Except we are using Wii shipment numbers, so don't you think it is fair to use PS4's shipment numbers, as well.  You know, apples to apples?  And a shipped console is a sold console to Sony and Nintendo.  They just sold it to a retailer, who will then sell it to a customer to make their money.

But yea, I agree with you that the PS4 will definitely not drop in sales by that much.

I know that's why I said it should say outship not sell since we are using shipments lol. I don't know when I see outsell I think to consumers when I see outship I think to retailers. Even thoigh I personally think the PS4 will outship and outsell the Wii.....



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TheBlackNaruto said:
thismeintiel said:

Except we are using Wii shipment numbers, so don't you think it is fair to use PS4's shipment numbers, as well.  You know, apples to apples?  And a shipped console is a sold console to Sony and Nintendo.  They just sold it to a retailer, who will then sell it to a customer to make their money.

But yea, I agree with you that the PS4 will definitely not drop in sales by that much.

I know that's why I said it should say outship not sell since we are using shipments lol. I don't know when I see outsell I think to consumers when I see outship I think to retailers. Even thoigh I personally think the PS4 will outship and outsell the Wii.....

Well, I think it's just that when we talk about legacy consoles selling X amount, it's always based on shipments.  Though, I can see how it may be confusing when one of them is still selling.



thismeintiel said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

I know that's why I said it should say outship not sell since we are using shipments lol. I don't know when I see outsell I think to consumers when I see outship I think to retailers. Even thoigh I personally think the PS4 will outship and outsell the Wii.....

Well, I think it's just that when we talk about legacy consoles selling X amount, it's always based on shipments.  Though, I can see how it may be confusing when one of them is still selling.

Good point



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fedfed said:
never!


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Surprising answer, totally not expected.



Barkley said:
Lenny93 said:

Playstation 4 sells will taper off in 2018. Shipped does not equal sold through. They will ship half that amount (9 million) in the 2018-2019 financial year and 5 million in the next one after that, so 92 million to be precise.

According to Wikipedia it has sold 3.4 Million by the end of June, I underestimated it a bit, it will probably exceed 4 Million when it's all said and done. But the other point in that post was to assert that BOTW would sell more, which it has, on a far smaller install base.

Yet the PS4 is selling through this year faster then it has in any other year, so shipped or sold through ps4 is doing fantastic. That you think PS4 shipments will drop by 50% next year is incredible. PS4 will ship around 14-15m units next year.

The 3.4m figure for Horizon is for the end of APRIL not June, Horizon should reach 6m no problem, games aren't so front loaded that they drop dead after 2 months.

I think the market for PS4 will reach saturation sooner than some are expecting, I could be wrong, time will tell.

 

"3.4 million copies had been sold by the month of June 2017 – of which, 915,000 were digital" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_Zero_Dawn#Sales



Sales prediction, PS4: 122 Million, Xbox one: 50 million, Switch: 105 million. 

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The Twelfth of Never...



I think some nintendo fanboys didn't get the question. It's not "Do you want PS4 to outsell the Wii", it's when. As for Lenny, since this guy said Horizon will never do 3 million lifetime, if he said PS4 won't do 100M, you can be sure it will.



Lenny93 said:
thismeintiel said:

I can understand the difference between the Game Boy and DS.  However, what you just typed makes it seem even more in line with the PS1 and PS2.  A gaming machine that appeals to the core and casual gamer, that has additional multimedia functions (PS1 - CDs, PS2 - DVDs, PS4 - Bluray and streaming apps) as icing on the cake.

And a few points.  When the PS1 launched, CDs had been around for 12 years.  Absolutely no one was buying the $299 PS1 for its ability to play CDs.  Players could be found for less than $50.  The myth of the PS2 as a cheap DVD player needs to just stop.  When the PS2 was launched for $299 in 2000, DVD players were available for ~$150, with some being $99 during the holiday season.  By 2003, when the PS2 was $179, players were available for less than $50.  Again, absolutely no one was buying it as a "cheap" DVD player.

I knew people that bought it as a  "cheap" DVD player, because it could do that as well as games. I doubt he meant non gamers buying it as a cheap DVD player. 

I got a DVD player well before I got a PS2. I estimate only a couple of millions of those PS2s were bought solely for their DVD playback capabilities?



Lenny93 said:

"3.4 million copies had been sold by the month of June 2017 – of which, 915,000 were digital" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_Zero_Dawn#Sales

The information was released early June, the figure given is for April 30th. Even follow the link to the source on wikipedia, at no point in the cited article does it say "as of june" it doesn't give a date.

A good example of that is the break down of sales for PS4’s Horizon Zero Dawn. As of April 30, more than 3.4 million copies of the game have been sold. Of those 915,000 were digital sales, according to PlayStation.




Wiibaron said:
The Twelfth of Never...

I'm amazed you care to post in this thread, a second time, because apparently you don't care about sales.

Actually it's probably just PlayStation sales you don't care about. When Nintendo get involved you've got a job to do!

The only people saying never have a very clear preference in one direction.