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Aeolus451 said:

Politic correctness is making things worse for the world. I'll just be talking about how it pertains to the topic. In order to hire someone with diversity being the goal, you have to discriminate towards people based on their sex, race, sexual orientation, political affliation to meet that goal.  

It's idiotic to even think of trying diversify careers based on physical characteristics because talent, experience, drive and intelligence are what is needed to do a job and those should be the only determining factors in picking people for positions. The whole point of fighting against discrimination is so they ccould be hired for their qualifications alone. The goal shouldn't be something so stupid as diversification. 

Goodness.

A couple of things.

1.)  A man who bragged on tape about grabbing women by the pussy was just elected leader of the free world and commander of the deadliest force on the planet. He just decommitted one of the largest polluters in the world from a pact aimed at averting a global catastrophe. But you think poltical correctness is what is doing us in?

2.) As another poster pointed out, these videos have zero to do with political correctness.

3.) I know everyone wants to freak out because it's the gaming community and everything, but these sorts of things are extremely common in all professions. There are assocations for black scientists, latino real-estate professionals, women lawyers. You name it. My own profession has them. It's really no big deal.

4.) It is incredibly naive to think that talent is the only determining factor in professional success. 

I encourage you to watch these videos again and ask yourself what you're really upset over here.



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I don't have a problem with it at all. I feel like my interests as a white, hetero, male are the default representation in gaming, and Asian males are another gamer archetype. Therefore if you want to demonstrate how diverse gaming has become, which is good for marketing, then you show all those people who do not fit into the default demographics, and say "hey, we're not just white dudes and Asian nerds we're all types of people and we welcome all types of people. The only colour we care about is green"

Of course I'm a but grumpy because the only demographic not shown, which don't fit into the archetypes, over 40s, aren't there.

The anti-PC crowd seem to be so easy to bait these days. They may need their own safe space.



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Edellus said:
This corp "inclusiveness" is very idiotic, hilariously so: "Thanks for being from the group you are and playing games! Characteristics such as race, sex and gender are very important to point out, because the opposite of being racist, sexist and homophobic is not valuing people as individuals, but by their identity group!".

They earned those dislikes. I mean, when are corps going to learn? Most people don't buy the SJW's definitions of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. Most people are sensible enough to understand that being benevolently racist, sexist,etc is not the opposite of being sexist,racist,etc.

So freaking true.  Looking down on a minority group as just a group, and not individuals, that you need to help because they are just too poor and ignorant/dumb to make it on their own is just as racist as calling someone the N word.  And I'm glad people are starting to wake up to this.  They did earn those dislikes.

Zkuq said:
I really don't understand the claims about political correctness here. Political correctness isn't about trying to advance the situation of some groups. It's more about what you can and what you can't say. If anything, this is the opposite of political correctness.

If you want to see politically incorrect, then do these videos, but only do the groups who were left out.  The SJWs would be in an uproar.  So, the opposite of politically incorrect is...politically correct.



specialk said:
Aeolus451 said:

Politic correctness is making things worse for the world. I'll just be talking about how it pertains to the topic. In order to hire someone with diversity being the goal, you have to discriminate towards people based on their sex, race, sexual orientation, political affliation to meet that goal.  

It's idiotic to even think of trying diversify careers based on physical characteristics because talent, experience, drive and intelligence are what is needed to do a job and those should be the only determining factors in picking people for positions. The whole point of fighting against discrimination is so they ccould be hired for their qualifications alone. The goal shouldn't be something so stupid as diversification. 

Goodness.

A couple of things.

1.)  A man who bragged on tape about grabbing women by the pussy was just elected leader of the free world and commander of the deadliest force on the planet. He just decommitted one of the largest polluters in the world from a pact aimed at averting a global catastrophe. But you think poltical correctness is what is doing us in?

2.) As another poster pointed out, these videos have zero to do with political correctness.

3.) I know everyone wants to freak out because it's the gaming community and everything, but these sorts of things are extremely common in all professions. There are assocations for black scientists, latino real-estate professionals, women lawyers. You name it. My own profession has them. It's really no big deal.

4.) It is incredibly naive to think that talent is the only determining factor in professional success. 

I encourage you to watch these videos again and ask yourself what you're really upset over here.

lol. 

1. Nice strawman.

2. Their intention of hosting those events in that fashion and putting vids up was to showcase them being politically correct. "Oh looky here, we're giving extra attention to these groups. We're listening". If that wasn't the point of the vids or part of the event, then they wouldn't need to bother with focusiing on it.

3. People are getting bothered by this because SJWs are trying to infect gaming with their idiocy. Any sign of it is not liked in the gaming world. 

4. Did I not give a list of factors?

I'm not upset. You're just trying to evade my points by using  a petty tactic to win a diagreement. "This is no reason to be upset". That is in with that whole "You mad, bro?". All I did what point out how focusing diversifying is an oxymoron.



Way to go Microsoft, upset the 2 biggest gamer demographics while pushing a new console.



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People are offended by these videos? Jesus people get offended so easily.



Proud to be a Californian.

Whites males don't need a video or event explicitely focused on them because the majority of people at every nerd convention and in every nerd video are young white adult males. That's just how it is.

I dunno about Asians, though.



I'm going to throw my rattle out of the pram too since OP has and add my two cents:

1) why aren't brown people (Pakistani, Indian, bengali) not getting their own video

2) why aren't Arabs getting their own video

3) why aren't people with dwarfism getting their own video

4) why aren't people with autism getting their own video

5) why aren't oaps getting their own video

6) my cat isn't represented either and that's a big no no, because my cat is frigging awesome



Is this a fucking joke? I can't belive how incredibly stupid some white straight men can be, after being the priority number 1 in everything for mileniums now feel discriminated everytime they are not the center of attention of everything.

Is pathetism to its purest expression.



Regarding Asians, because no one in western media ever cared about Asians unless the purpose of their inclusion is pandering to the Asian market.