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BraLoD said:
V-r0cK said:

I know right!!!!

Oh gosh I can't imagine how much more for those premium features xD

You'll just have to trade your car for it!

I think it's worth more than my car loll



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vivster said:
WolfpackN64 said:

It does.

So they're regressing. That's not what I would pay $5000 for.

You can buy a future proof model for $5500 which comes with an Apple branded Cork to shove in the 3.5mm jack.



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$5k? They can fucking blow with that price. It better make you coffee and rub you out.



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I think I'll just go with PCPartPicker for my next PC...



Ganoncrotch said:
vivster said:

So they're regressing. That's not what I would pay $5000 for.

You can buy a future proof model for $5500 which comes with an Apple branded Cork to shove in the 3.5mm jack.

That's just not the same experience.



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WolfpackN64 said:

True, and hopefully Intel moves all their products up two cores. Still waiting till I can get my hands on a quad core 13-inch Macbook Pro :)

Pentiums and Celerons just like the Core M and Y series mobile chips will certainly stay at 2 cores, at least for now. The only exeption are the Atom based Celerons, which have 4 cores 

I think Intel might move up their desktop naming scheme soon to this: i7 for hexa/octacore with HT, i5 for quadcore with HT and hexa/octacore without HT, i3 for quadcore without HT, Pentium for Dualcore with HT and Celeron for dualcores

A quadcore 13inch Macbook Pro will certainly be possible soon, the question is if Apple has any intention to make those.

SuperNova said:

Yuup. Hopefully Intel gets their shit toghether, they've been resting on their laurels for too long. We should at least get some nice pricedrops from the competition and since Intel already annouced pricedrops for coffee lake I'm pretty optimistic about future drops as long as Zen stays on schedule.

Doubt it, CEO Krzanich fired so much talent an dried up research funds because he thought AMD and IBM (the latter in Servers) could never catch up again, leaving the Processor department in shambles. There's a reason why the IPC didn't move much anymore since Haswell, getting most of their performance gains since then through higher clock speeds. Instead, Krzanich wanted to move big into the Internet of Things products (connected appliances) - but even a core m or an Atom processor is massively oversized and doesn't come with the needed integrated connectivity. They restarted to rehire new personnel and increasing the research funds again, but that will take years to take any real effect.

Trying to keep up with AMDs APUs in the graphics department also made them constantly increase the TDP on the top model i7: 77W on Ivy Bridge, 84/88W on Haswell, and 91W since Skylake. Now Kaby Lake X comes with 112W TDP despite not bringing much more than the base 7700K/7600K models and not coming with an iGP

The reason for the Coffe Lake pricedrops are certainly because they could see that there's no chance in Hell they still could keep up their old price model with Ryzen on the loose. Worse, by the time Coffee Lake finally comes out, AMD will release their 14nm LPP+ Chips with Pinnacle Ridge (otherwise identicl with Summit Ridge, aka Zen/Ryzen), which allowed already higher clock speeds on the RX 5xx GPU line compared to the RX 4xx. So The upgraded Zen will come with 2-400 additional Mhz, basically nullifying the plus Coffee Lake brings over Kaby Lake.

Intel still has some technical advantages though: A somewhat better IPC, higher clock speeds and much better AVX integration. However, AVX is still very niche in real life, the clock speed gap might get pretty thin with Pinnacle Ridge and the IPC advantage might even be lost when Zen 2 launches. Which leaves Intel still with one, gretty giant advantage: sheer Brand recognition, especially in mobile computers, since the laptop producers couldn't assemble an halfway decent APU based Laptop if their life would have been on the line, pretty much every Laptop and notebook is fired by an Intel CPU - and those are the computers non-gamers generally buy.



Looks nice, Apple haters are triggered again. Can't recognize greatness when they see one.

tinfamous12 said:
I would never buy Apple. Too generic and definitely overpriced.

 

shikamaru317 said:
Apple buyers are the biggest suckers on this planet. Everything they make is ridiculously overpriced.

Overpriced yes, but Apple makes the best hardware and software, that's a fact.

My iPad Air 2 from 2014 is still one of the fastest tablets and still relevant, Android devices get outdated in less than a year.

I'm not into Apple desktops but everything else they make from phones to laptops they're my 1st choice.



WolfpackN64 said:
Dulfite said:
LOL at anyone willing to buy this over just building your own computer for far, far cheaper, and way better parts.

Ok, build me an Intel 8 core PC, with an 11TFLOPS GPU (so Radeon Vega or NVIDIA TITAN XP), 32GB's of ECC DDR4 RAM, 1TB of PCIe SSD storage, A PSU to power it all (Gold rated, probably around 800 Watts), a top of the line 5K professional display, a mouse, a keyboard and a fully alluminum chassis.

Report back with your much cheaper PC, I'm curious.

I build one on pcpartpicker.com and it came out to $3842.24. I wasn't able to do certain things (had to go with 1080 TI instead of Titan), but I compensated I think more than enough by getting more expensive things in other areas. In fact, I would say this number is rather bloated and could probably lose at least another $500-1000 if one went for bang per buck. And yes, this includes the whole office package and windows, monitor, gold power supply, and the other things you demanded like a 5k monitor. Though I didn't know which version of intel you wanted other than 8 core?



Dulfite said:
WolfpackN64 said:

Ok, build me an Intel 8 core PC, with an 11TFLOPS GPU (so Radeon Vega or NVIDIA TITAN XP), 32GB's of ECC DDR4 RAM, 1TB of PCIe SSD storage, A PSU to power it all (Gold rated, probably around 800 Watts), a top of the line 5K professional display, a mouse, a keyboard and a fully alluminum chassis.

Report back with your much cheaper PC, I'm curious.

I build one on pcpartpicker.com and it came out to $3842.24. I wasn't able to do certain things (had to go with 1080 TI instead of Titan), but I compensated I think more than enough by getting more expensive things in other areas. In fact, I would say this number is rather bloated and could probably lose at least another $500-1000 if one went for bang per buck. And yes, this includes the whole office package and windows, monitor, gold power supply, and the other things you demanded like a 5k monitor. Though I didn't know which version of intel you wanted other than 8 core?

As long as it's a Xeon.