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KBG29 said:
I think Sony would be insane not to release a Handheld/Phone built around PS4 tech, with full access to PS4 software and service. It has to happen at some point if they want to continue to grow the PlayStation division, and continue to please consumers and more importantly share holders. PlayStation is their only growth business right now, and if they want to continue this upward trend in profits, they have to widen the platform. Whether they can make that happen right now is another question.

Personally I don't think it will happen this year. I think it is going to have to wait for 7nm FinFET. Unless all PS4 games have the ability to scale back assets, resolution, ect., there is just no way they can build something the size of Vita or Switch that can run these games. If they did, build something small enough, I think current games would have to be patched to play on it, meaning less support, and a bad image in gamers minds.

In my opinion, it is smarter to wait until they can deliver the full PS4 library on a mobile device. I think a Wifi only dedicated Handheld, and a Phone model would do quite well with the backing of the entire PS4 catalog and services. They should be able to do this at a very low R&D cost, as it should use the same chipset as the PS4 Super Slim, and run the same OS. I think by making it just another device in the PS4 ecosystem they could have a very successful mobile market even if they only reach the 15 million Vita users. Although, I think a PS4 Phone would be the most successful mobile device Sony has ever launch, and sell much better than Vita or PSP.

It won't happen for a long, long, long time. 

Even at 7nm, a PS4 chip would likely consume about 25-30 watts, that's not feasible in a mobile device. 7nm production for a chip as complex as a PS4 is years away too. 

The PS4 needed to be designed from day 1 as a mobile centric device for that idea to work. It's not. Switch is. 

Nintendo will be able to release a Switch in 3 years or so with PS4-tier graphics, that will be good enough. 



As a gamer I should normally be happy with a new handheld but I prefer Sony not waste resources on it and spend it all on PS4/Consoles/VR...






estebxx said:

All i know is that it would be one of Sonys worst decisions if true, they should just focus on what they do best their home console.  

Soundwave said:

Sony just needs to stay out. There's a difference between competition and unnecessarily over flooding the market with something that's not needed. 

Nintendo is allowing traditional gaming to still have a foothold in a portable market that's been eaten alive by smartphones/tablets.

It's in Sony's long term interests that kids get hooked on dedicated gaming early on too. Nintendo's job is hard enough as is.

Stay the fuck out, plz. You're not going to beat Nintendo, all you're going to do in unnecessarily divide developers for no good reason. Go focus on PS5 and VR.

If done right a new Mobile PlayStation should fall right in line with all other PS4 hardware. It should be built off the same chipset as the PS4, run the same OS, and essentially be just another form factor of the PS4. It should have next to no effect on game development, and only very little resources from Sony. The overall platform is already being built around scalability, which allows for higher and lower end devices to fall in line with little impact.

From the start it should basically be looked at as just another way to play your PS4 games. For some it may be the only PS4 they buy, for others it might be a convient way to take PS4 on the go, for another group it may be of no interest. If Sony can do it with little impact, and add another oppertunity for profits to their ecosystem, then it is a must.

If it fails, and only reaches Vita levels, then it should be no big deal for Sony. They should almost certaintly make a profit off the endeavor. If it succeeds, then they can bring in more man power to improve the mobile side. Ultimately they could end their Xperia Phones, and bring the Sony Mobile staff over to work on Apps and OS support for the mobile aspects of the PS4 ecosystem. It is a low risk business move, that could result in billions in profits, and greatly increase Sonys market value and userbase.



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I feel like a properly marketed rival to the Switch could make a dent.

1. Make it nearly identical to the Switch in specifications. Maybe 5-10% stronger or weaker, but the difference needs to be relatively negligible.

2. Give it full library support from the PSVita.

3. Make a development kit designed to make porting to and from the Switch easy.

4. Get Monster Hunter back.

5. Allow use of the "Playcons" on the PS4, and for the DS4 on the handheld.

6. Let it use standard SD or microSD cards for storage.

7. Finally, call it "PlayStation Rival", because we all know what its purpose for existing is.



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Dunno , but I don't think one failure is enough to say a new playstation portable is imposible.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

KBG29 said:
estebxx said:

All i know is that it would be one of Sonys worst decisions if true, they should just focus on what they do best their home console.  

Soundwave said:

Sony just needs to stay out. There's a difference between competition and unnecessarily over flooding the market with something that's not needed. 

Nintendo is allowing traditional gaming to still have a foothold in a portable market that's been eaten alive by smartphones/tablets.

It's in Sony's long term interests that kids get hooked on dedicated gaming early on too. Nintendo's job is hard enough as is.

Stay the fuck out, plz. You're not going to beat Nintendo, all you're going to do in unnecessarily divide developers for no good reason. Go focus on PS5 and VR.

If done right a new Mobile PlayStation should fall right in line with all other PS4 hardware. It should be built off the same chipset as the PS4, run the same OS, and essentially be just another form factor of the PS4. It should have next to no effect on game development, and only very little resources from Sony. The overall platform is already being built around scalability, which allows for higher and lower end devices to fall in line with little impact.

From the start it should basically be looked at as just another way to play your PS4 games. For some it may be the only PS4 they buy, for others it might be a convient way to take PS4 on the go, for another group it may be of no interest. If Sony can do it with little impact, and add another oppertunity for profits to their ecosystem, then it is a must.

If it fails, and only reaches Vita levels, then it should be no big deal for Sony. They should almost certaintly make a profit off the endeavor. If it succeeds, then they can bring in more man power to improve the mobile side. Ultimately they could end their Xperia Phones, and bring the Sony Mobile staff over to work on Apps and OS support for the mobile aspects of the PS4 ecosystem. It is a low risk business move, that could result in billions in profits, and greatly increase Sonys market value and userbase.

What you're describing is wishful thinking. 

Putting a 55-60 watt 16nm chip into a mobile form factor isn't easily feasible even with a die shrink. 

PS4 is not built for that kind of scalability. Switch on the other hand, certainly is. 

Not to mention good luck with the games ... how's that supposed to work? 512GB onboard flash? 



Azuren said:
I feel like a properly marketed rival to the Switch could make a dent.

1. Make it nearly identical to the Switch in specifications. Maybe 5-10% stronger or weaker, but the difference needs to be relatively negligible.

2. Give it full library support from the PSVita.

3. Make a development kit designed to make porting to and from the Switch easy.

4. Get Monster Hunter back.

5. Allow use of the "Playcons" on the PS4, and for the DS4 on the handheld.

6. Let it use standard SD or microSD cards for storage.

7. Finally, call it "PlayStation Rival", because we all know what its purpose for existing is.

So this generation's PS Move except with a greater chance of failure.



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KrspaceT said:

What's your take on that rumor? Does it have any chance of popping up? What would be the ramnifications of it?

Apparently Square Enix CEO mentioned PSP3 as an unreleased platform in a press release: https://youtu.be/GjSG2vr-Yk8?t=302

~Edit~
Source is questionable.



NintendoPie said:
Azuren said:
I feel like a properly marketed rival to the Switch could make a dent.

1. Make it nearly identical to the Switch in specifications. Maybe 5-10% stronger or weaker, but the difference needs to be relatively negligible.

2. Give it full library support from the PSVita.

3. Make a development kit designed to make porting to and from the Switch easy.

4. Get Monster Hunter back.

5. Allow use of the "Playcons" on the PS4, and for the DS4 on the handheld.

6. Let it use standard SD or microSD cards for storage.

7. Finally, call it "PlayStation Rival", because we all know what its purpose for existing is.

So this generation's PS Move except with a greater chance of failure.

No more failure potential than the Wii U, at any rate.



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