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VGPolyglot said:
Now, for the homosexuals here, I guess the reverse could be asked. That'd really help us in our understanding of whether or not it's natural or a social construct.

Well, I'm a bisexual man.  And when I was growing up I used to go through phases where I used to find one of the two genders repulsive.

 

When I was going thru the phase of finding men repulsive I used to feel happy because I thought that I had been "cured" of my gayness.  But then I would go back to the other side and then I felt depressed.

 

But anyway, nowadays when I see a straight person being grossed out by the image of two gays having sex, I understand them, because I've been there.  And viceversa.



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Birimbau said:
Anyone is free to do whatever they want with their asses.

Eh... I don't think you want to make a blanket statement like that.  I can think of quite a few things you can do with your ass that shouldn't be legal.



chakkra said:
VGPolyglot said:
Now, for the homosexuals here, I guess the reverse could be asked. That'd really help us in our understanding of whether or not it's natural or a social construct.

Well, I'm a bisexual man.  And when I was growing up I used to go through phases where I used to find one of the two genders repulsive.

 

When I was going thru the phase of finding men repulsive I used to feel happy because I thought that I had been "cured" of my gayness.  But then I would go back to the other side and then I felt depressed.

 

But anyway, nowadays when I see a straight person being grossed out by the image of two gays having sex, I understand them, because I've been there.  And viceversa.

So, do you still go through phases? Or are you sexually attracted by both now?



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It is only natural to find stuff disgusting that is not normal for "you". As a straight person the image of two men doing that is weird, but then again how do you feel about lesbians? i guess men fantisise about threesomes with two women so two women making out doesn't come across as bad.

Homophobic person is someone who goes out of their way to attack gay people.

What i find funny the people who hate gay people have no logical reason to. If anything they should be happy about it because the more gay men their are the better chance they have of finding a female. It's a win win situation.



 

 

Locknuts said:

Hey everyone,

I just though I'd give my opinion on homosexuality here and feel free to let me know if I fit the definition of 'homophobic'.

I'm not religious in any way, in fact I'm agnostic. So I wouldn't dare use some doctrine to try to judge homosexual acts morally. Homosexuality, in most cases, is a consensual relationship that in no way violates the non-aggression principle. In a relationship between two or more people, this is key. Where it is not consensual, it is rape and therefore illegal. 

In fact the more I rationalise it, the more I fail to see a problem with homosexual relationships. So why then do I feel sick when I think of two men performing homosexual acts? I have rationalised it, jusified it morally and accepted it, but seriously the thought of two guys going at it really does make me nauseous. 

Being presented with gay imagary basically gives me the same feeling as being presented with images of beastiality. 

Two women? It's strange but not vomit inducing. But not great either. 

I'm also not into anal sex at all so that's probably got something to do with it (it makes my ass sore - kidding).

I don't think this is something that I've been taught to find disgusting, I think it's built into me (born this way).

None of this is a problem however, because gay people don't have sex in front of me, and I would usually have to go looking for gay imagery if I wanted it.

I would call a lot of gay people I've met friends. Some came out later than others but nothing changed when they did. Incredibly nice people, all of them so far.

So am I homophobic? 

I don´t think so.



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naruball said:
Safiir said:

That's literraly in the OP. How is it not the topic of discussion?

 

The OP talks about seeing two guys kissing. That's what triggers the image of gay guys having sex. We're not talking about watching porn.

That's what's litterally in the OP.

Nowhere in the OP is any mention of kissing.

 

TargaryenVers2 said:
JWeinCom said:

Then you change the laws, beccause those are based on logic and reason.  Logically, I am convinced that there is no problem with gay people showing affection in public.  So, if there was a law to ban gay PDAs I'd be against it.

But feelings are not always (maybe not even usually) based on logic.  So, if I see gay people making out, I might still be all like ewww even if I logically don't think it's wrong.

Again, many of those in power use feelings instead of logic to dictate political decisions, because they are voted by the people, which also use gut feelings and what they think is "gross," which is why many states in the US still lags behind regarding lgbt rights (as well as climate change, healthcare, etc), as well as for the longest time racial and sex inequality.

I'm fine with individuals thinking I'm gross, I couldn't care less. The problem is those discomforts internalize for many people and change voting patterns for people that ultimately lead to negative consequences for the lgbt community. 

I'm not convinced that's true. Rather those people are actually really homophobes or/and they're appealing to homophobic voters.



Kaneman! said:
Nem said:

Honestly, i disagree with the both of you.

Firstly, homosexuals make as much sense as all of us existing. It's nature. In the end we all die, the sun explodes, all life dies. The universe is chaotic and humanity is a blip. It doesn't have to make sense outside the context, wich is this planet and evolution of said life. Homosexuality is just like any other genetic condition. It is the product of imperfection, but none of us is the perfect human beeing. As great as DNA is for evolution, it hardly ever gets it right, and homosexuality is not the worst you can have.

I completely agree with this. I'm just saying that it's a deviation from the norm, or mode, whatever you prefer.

Nem said:

Now, the second point, i think is utter foolishness. I don't think a homosexual is any less capable of raising a child than anyone else. There are terrible people out there, wich are infinitly worse human beeings who mistreat children. 

What a child needs is a caring home. Any issue that could arise would arise from external sources (aka discrimination). Caving to them is reinforcing them. So, i am definitly against that reinforcement.

I think you misunderstood me there. I'm not arguing against adoption, I'm arguing against the argument that is nonsensical in that context. You can't flip flop in between answers like that because it fits your narrative, that's all. You can offer a better home to a child, that's perfect, but don't use the argument how natural your relationship is in the next sentence.

But the function that is seen in nature for gay couples is to become serrogate parents for orphaned babies. That sounds a lot like adoption to me and therefore the "it's natural" argument would work just fine for gay couples adopting kids.



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Safiir said:
TargaryenVers2 said:

Again, many of those in power use feelings instead of logic to dictate political decisions, because they are voted by the people, which also use gut feelings and what they think is "gross," which is why many states in the US still lags behind regarding lgbt rights (as well as climate change, healthcare, etc), as well as for the longest time racial and sex inequality.

I'm fine with individuals thinking I'm gross, I couldn't care less. The problem is those discomforts internalize for many people and change voting patterns for people that ultimately lead to negative consequences for the lgbt community. 

I'm not convinced that's true. Rather those people are actually really homophobes or/and they're appealing to homophobic voters.

Prop 8 is a prime example of how anti-lgbt laws can get passed through appealing to "not" homophobic people. The strong appeal towards "preserving" traditional marriage and the "think about the children" message resignated with a lot of people that were on the fence or didn't think about the issue, enough for it to pass and take away marriage equality. People on the fence that voted yes thought about their personal discomforts and it influencd their votes.

It's amazing how quickly people forget about how much struggling and cultural battles the lgbt community faced because people "felt grossed out" by them



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