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KLAMarine said:
A_C_E said:

Did someone mention quitting? How many points did Cleveland get in the last 3 minutes of game 3? Zero? How many did Durant get? Seven you say? If Durant is a quitter then I guess Cleveland is a no-show. Get silenced.

Every NBA player is desperate for a ring, it's every NBA players dream lol, what do you think is the biggest prize in the NBA? Loyalty to a capitalistic organization? Someone fooled you.

He'll get a ring because he's one of the greatest players in the league. He'll get a ring because he ACTUALLY makes shots within the last 3 minutes of the game. There's no changing history, which is why Durant chose his future with GSW.

Nah, some players stick with their team through thick and thin. Others seek out opportunities elsewhere.

And some like Durant shamelessly defect to a historic, 73-9 team that defeated his team in the last playoffs. I got no respect for players who are THAT desperate for a ring.

You are choosing to see it in a negative way, attaching meaningless social stigma to KD taking advantage of his greatest opportunity for a ring. No different than the rest of the sheep that lay hate upon KD just because he joined a team that just so happened to go up against a team that beat him the year prior.

Shameless? There's no shame in joining a winning team. Again that's on you to put that in negative light. KD was able to get over the loss but people no more than simple on-lookers can't? Salty.

Defection? Players get traded all the time, and all teams take losses from one another all over the place throughout the playoffs. You are looking at this situation and creating drama out of nothing.

It's a shame people allow their views to be infested with illogical social stigma.

I'm pretty sure KD isn't going to allow a bunch of baseless opinions stop him from making the smartest choice he could in the NBA.



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A_C_E said:
KLAMarine said:

Nah, some players stick with their team through thick and thin. Others seek out opportunities elsewhere.

And some like Durant shamelessly defect to a historic, 73-9 team that defeated his team in the last playoffs. I got no respect for players who are THAT desperate for a ring.

You are choosing to see it in a negative way, attaching meaningless social stigma to KD taking advantage of his greatest opportunity for a ring. No different than the rest of the sheep that lay hate upon KD just because he joined a team that just so happened to go up against a team that beat him the year prior.

Shameless? There's no shame in joining a winning team. Again that's on you to put that in negative light. KD was able to get over the loss but people no more than simple on-lookers can't? Salty.

Defection? Players get traded all the time, and all teams take losses from one another all over the place throughout the playoffs. You are looking at this situation and creating drama out of nothing.

It's a shame people allow their views to be infested with illogical social stigma.

I'm pretty sure KD isn't going to allow a bunch of baseless opinions stop him from making the smartest choice he could in the NBA.

Well if moves like KD's are okay then might I suggest Kawhi Leonard also join the Warriors? Hell, get Lebron James in there too and Kyrie Irving after. Let all the biggest talents in the NBA join the Warriors so that they will sweep all before them and they will all win rings next year.

Excellent, tense, down-to-the-wire 7-game series like those between Thunder and Warriors or between Warriors and Cavaliers last year be damned. Those are too exciting to watch, they need to be more dull and one-sided.



Soundwave said:
Boost6 said:
Warriors are being overrated, Cavs just are playing with 2 and a half man and a bunch of bums.

Bulls would push their shit in, especially playing real 90s ball not the puss fest of today.

Jordan is the best player ever, but I don't trust Scottie Pippen's erratic jumper and Toni Kukoc's inconsistent play to be able to counter the Warriors. You get basically zero offence from Rodman. 

There's nothing wrong with saying the Warriors might be better.

The Western Conference All-Stars are better than the Bulls ... obviously you can say well that's an unfair comparison, but the Warriors are basically like an All-Star team upfront. 

It's just probably a "once every 30 years" mix of talent due to the stars alligning a certain way. If "super teaming" was a thing in the 90s, maybe you'd have seen Barkley or Ewing jump ship to join Chicago, and that team would've been better than any of the 6 Bulls championship teams. There's no ineherint rule against a stacked team.  


Rodman would shut down anyone on the warriors, then its Jordan on the second best and Scotti on the 3rd option.  Bulls out hustle and dominate them physically.  And in the modern no touch nba jordan would brutally outscore everyone.  Mj had to bleed for his buckets, not likethese whimps.  Warriors don't have the physically strength and balls to go at it with the bulls, while Bulls have the skill and talent and firepower to match the Warriors. 

Warriors just climbed at the right time with Miami broke up and Spurs taking a step back.   One of the great teams epsecially with Durant.  But also the team that was losing by 20 all game till some asshole injured Kwai.  

Healthy Spurs are a hell of a lot more competaive series then the Cavs.   



KLAMarine said:
A_C_E said:

Did someone mention quitting? How many points did Cleveland get in the last 3 minutes of game 3? Zero? How many did Durant get? Seven you say? If Durant is a quitter then I guess Cleveland is a no-show. Get silenced.

Every NBA player is desperate for a ring, it's every NBA players dream lol, what do you think is the biggest prize in the NBA? Loyalty to a capitalistic organization? Someone fooled you.

He'll get a ring because he's one of the greatest players in the league. He'll get a ring because he ACTUALLY makes shots within the last 3 minutes of the game. There's no changing history, which is why Durant chose his future with GSW.

Nah, some players stick with their team through thick and thin. Others seek out opportunities elsewhere.

And some like Durant shamelessly defect to a historic, 73-9 team that defeated his team in the last playoffs. I got no respect for players who are THAT desperate for a ring.

When I think about it, did you thought the same way when James decided to go to Miami ?



KLAMarine said:

Well if moves like KD's are okay then might I suggest Kawhi Leonard also join the Warriors? Hell, get Lebron James in there too and Kyrie Irving after. Let all the biggest talents in the NBA join the Warriors so that they will sweep all before them and they will all win rings next year.

Excellent, tense, down-to-the-wire 7-game series like those between Thunder and Warriors or between Warriors and Cavaliers last year be damned. Those are too exciting to watch, they need to be more dull and one-sided.

So the only reason you are giving to your current thought process towards the KD situation is that all NBA superstars could just go to one team? Two words: Salary Cap. All teams must abide by the salary cap. The Warriors aren't doing anything different than what any other team is capable of so why suggest Leonard join the Warriors? That would require many of the people on GSW to leave due Salary issues and disputes.

I guess I'm having a discussion with someone who doesn't understand how the NBA operates.

PS - Sarcasm is only funny when it makes sense. You just sound frustrated that you aren't getting your way in the playoffs. It goes that way sometimes but don't take it out on completely legal situations and judge somebody when you don't understand the situation.



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WebMasterFlex said:
KLAMarine said:

Nah, some players stick with their team through thick and thin. Others seek out opportunities elsewhere.

And some like Durant shamelessly defect to a historic, 73-9 team that defeated his team in the last playoffs. I got no respect for players who are THAT desperate for a ring.

When I think about it, did you thought the same way when James decided to go to Miami ?

I felt similarly but KD's move I find to be much more cowardly: for starters, when James went to Miami, the Heat hadn't been to the finals since 2006 and they hadn't broken the Chicago Bulls's regular season win record either. Also, I might be wrong on this but James's Cavaliers hadn't been eliminated by the Heat prior to James's joining them.

The two instances are not terribly comparable.

A_C_E said:
KLAMarine said:

Well if moves like KD's are okay then might I suggest Kawhi Leonard also join the Warriors? Hell, get Lebron James in there too and Kyrie Irving after. Let all the biggest talents in the NBA join the Warriors so that they will sweep all before them and they will all win rings next year.

Excellent, tense, down-to-the-wire 7-game series like those between Thunder and Warriors or between Warriors and Cavaliers last year be damned. Those are too exciting to watch, they need to be more dull and one-sided.

So the only reason you are giving to your current thought process towards the KD situation is that all NBA superstars could just go to one team? Two words: Salary Cap. All teams must abide by the salary cap. The Warriors aren't doing anything different than what any other team is capable of so why suggest Leonard join the Warriors? That would require many of the people on GSW to leave due Salary issues and disputes.

I think salary caps can be circumvented if players agree to earning less. Tim Duncan is one example of this happening:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/9/8922483/tim-duncan-contract-discount-spurs-nba-free-agency

I imagine Kawhi and James and Irving can join the Warriors if everyone in the Warriors agrees to taking cuts.

A_C_E said:

I guess I'm having a discussion with someone who doesn't understand how the NBA operates.

PS - Sarcasm is only funny when it makes sense. You just sound frustrated that you aren't getting your way in the playoffs. It goes that way sometimes but don't take it out on completely legal situations and judge somebody when you don't understand the situation.

No, I'm just disappointed. I love basketball and the amazing 7-game series that can take place at times and I once had great respect for Durant.

 

Not so much anymore as he chases a ring the easy way.



At least the last game was close, I expect the cavs to win the next one and then warriors seal the deal at home.



                                                                                     

Dark_Lord_2008 said:
No way the Rockets would lose to the Bulls in their 1994 and 1995 championship years. The Bulls lacked size in comparison to the Rockets team lead by the great Hakeem Olajuwon. The Bulls were lucky to never face the Rockets in the NBA Finals. Olajuwon was a stronger opponent than the big guys Jordan faced in NBA Finals: Malone, Kemp and Barkley. Jordan got lucky to win his 6 NBA titles. Jordan never faced a strong team in the NBA Finals.

BS. The Jazz, even though aging, we're a fantastic team in the west, with two top 50 players in the NBA Karl Malone and John Stockton. Portland with Cylde the glide were also really solid. Not to mention the Bulls got past some great eastern teams to get to the finals, including the Knicks with one of the best big men in a decade Ewing, Pacers with one of the most clutch players Reggie Miller, and Magic with the Shaq and Penny duo. 



Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time is a myth created by Orange Gatorade commercial and the Nike Jordan marketing campaigns. Numerous legends of the NBA including Magic, Kareem, Dr J., Larry Bird, Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain do not rate Michael Jordan as a top 5 player of all time. Players like: Charles Barkley and Scottie Pippen claim Michael Jordan is the greatest because their legacies are boosted by claiming Jordan is the greatest. Is Michael Jordan the greatest or not the greatest NBA player of all time?



Michael Jordan literally damaged Barkley's career by denying him a shot at the ring. You're making no sense at all.