pearljammer said:
Aeolus451 said:
Again, I didn't ask and I'm not mad. I prefer to use terms everyday people are familiar with so there's little to no misundering or I just elaborate if I can do it quickly. The easiest way is just say I'm an atheist but I'm open to the idea of gods. You're just being a bit pretentious in trying to label me when I didn't ask to be.
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Is there not irony in you objecting to be labeled by others but resisting others' right to label their gender? It struck me as inconsistant. I could be wrong, though. Perhaps you only think gender isn't socially negotiated, as well as psychologically and biologically infulenced but would agree to use the gender label(s) one identifies with.
As to the greater topic at hand: I'd be cautious in claiming that science is with either political leaning. Many people who subscribe to a plethora of political stances hold positions not based in reason, rationale, or data. Whether it's sects of the right with climate change, evolution, and, well, social sciences as a whole, or parts of the left with GMOs and vaccinations, it's evident not all people of any political persuasion exclusively adhere to scientific findings.
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Well, someone assumed I was religious and I replied that I wasn't then some of them tried to school me on how I wasn't religious when I didn't ask to. I don't know why they kept bringing it up. The main thing is I'm trying to not get pulled into anymore off topics but the rabbit hole is just getting deeper. I'll leave this as my last reply to this sort of stufff. I'm willing to use their preferred gender labels as long as they are passable (at least making an obvious effort to appear as the gender they want or I'm made aware of their preferred pronouns and as long as they are polite. To me, using their labels is a courtesy or being polite. I'm not obligated to remain polite if they aren't.
I also don't think a person can be a male one day and a girl the next day then later on in the week back again. So I'll just address them as they appear. With non-binary trans, it's situational but for the most part, I won't use their preferred labels. I'm not gonna call them a zer or something they made up because it's getting to the point of being absurd. There's limits to what I'm gonna play along with. Anyone can believe anything they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone or force others to believe in it too or to act a different way. You can think yourself as a dragon for all care but I'm not gonna address you as one.
