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FallingTitan said:
endimion said:
As long as they don't do anything like Sony i'm fine. There is a reason I'm an XBox customer and I'll be for foreseeable future... I'm content with what I get so far... Sure last Ben was better... But nothing from Sony remotely attracts me... And with BC, GwG, game pass and EA offer... I have games to play for the next decade... This holiday I'll be buying a Scorpio without even thinking about it... MS service is great... Their exclusives are fun... Give me more stuff like you have been doing since you started with the OG xb... Phantom dust, forza, halo, gears, fable, sunset, Alan wake, lost odyssey, blue dragon, quantum break, panzer dragoon orta, banjo, perfect dark, etc etc etc and more yet to come... Quantity doesn't mean quality... Pretty clear when you see what other does... And to be frank I'm content with the quantity so far...

Of course that's me and most of my entourage

try Ori and the blind forest and Recore. some great MS games.

Ori is one of my fav games of all time. i think its a masterpiece beyond masterpieces.

Well, I think that at this point we can agree that most of the market thinks otherwise, at least based on the shameful sale numbers compared with ps4 and switch last couple of months... 

 

So, what would you think they should change, that was the question. Saying everything is fine already showed its incorrect... 



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nothing except vastly lower the price of their system. They have far too few exclusives these days and it's been a suicide move to put their games on Windows Live as well. even if their end goal is to sort of merge their video game division with their software.... short term it was insane decision to essentially give people fewer reasons to game specifically on Xbox 



FallingTitan said:
endimion said:
As long as they don't do anything like Sony i'm fine. There is a reason I'm an XBox customer and I'll be for foreseeable future... I'm content with what I get so far... Sure last Ben was better... But nothing from Sony remotely attracts me... And with BC, GwG, game pass and EA offer... I have games to play for the next decade... This holiday I'll be buying a Scorpio without even thinking about it... MS service is great... Their exclusives are fun... Give me more stuff like you have been doing since you started with the OG xb... Phantom dust, forza, halo, gears, fable, sunset, Alan wake, lost odyssey, blue dragon, quantum break, panzer dragoon orta, banjo, perfect dark, etc etc etc and more yet to come... Quantity doesn't mean quality... Pretty clear when you see what other does... And to be frank I'm content with the quantity so far...

Of course that's me and most of my entourage

try Ori and the blind forest and Recore. some great MS games.

Ori is one of my fav games of all time. i think its a masterpiece beyond masterpieces.

no offense but Recore's reviews are far from stellar (and I think its available on Windows Live anyway)



flashfire926 said:
The first thing Microsoft needs is an open world rpg in the vain of skyrim, breath of the wild, or Horizon Zero Dawn. While they should not abandon their holy trinity (Halo, Gears, Forza) they need a new ip asap. No Jrpgs, RTS, or MMO will fill the void of a single-player open world rpg.

are Gears and Forza really considered top tier enough at this point to retain gamers based on their sales though? Agreed with the general sentiment though, Microsoft needs to invest in big new IPs because they don't have a strong enough group to draw in the bulk of gamers 

In fact the biggest weapon Microsoft probably had was Minecraft, maybe they should have had that as PC + Xbox exclusive, just saying. 



Nothing, the problem is worldwide. There is only a 2 million gap between them if we only look at USA. Scorpio will do shit to change anything. The gap between them will be huge due the world wide sales and there will not be a kinect crowd to push xbox one to 360 numbers here in US to equal what sony does world wide. And sony also has long term partnerships with star wars, disney, destiny and Call of duty so it wont be easy. Lets say a miracle happens and xbox one scorpio sells 2 million at launch in US. The still would need like 28 million more sales to close the gap. That won't be doable before the ps5 launch.



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
This could work: buy Capcom and make the next Monster Hunter games for XBOne, Windows Mobile and PSV, but neither for Switch, nor for PS4, nor for Android, and port to Windows PC one year later to avoid damaging XBOne sales. Same thing for all the other Capcom games. This should attack Switch from every side, every possible competition direction, but without making other MS competitors stronger where they could be or already are dangerous for XBOne or Windows.
Same thing, if possible, with another publisher of games that usually sell very well on Ninty or Sony platforms.

yeah.... spend probably over 5 billion dollars on acquiring Capcom just to essentially TAKE AWAY Franchises from their competitors. Capcom is probably just not worth acquiring at this point for their IPs or someone would have attempted it in the last bunch of years where they weren't doing great imo

Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, Mega Man- they're all stellar franchises but don't justifiy taking over Capcom. Not that a move is even possible most likely , we've been over Japanese law on foreignors buying their companies 

I do agree that moneyhatting for a bunch of third party exclusives can't hurt though. They honestly should get Resident Evil exclusive on the Xbox. get some Square Enix games exclusive (the Tomb Raider game was a mistake obvs, but anyone could have seen that coming). maybe get a window of exclusivity for some giant game (lke a 2K game or some EA sports game).

The problem is MIcrosoft is too cheap with their video game division. They're unwilling to invest heavily into first party development and won't moneyhat third parties. I'm not sure what their longterm plan is beyond, again, just transitioning to a platform where Xbox is directly connected to their PC software/programming 



mountaindewslave said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
This could work: buy Capcom and make the next Monster Hunter games for XBOne, Windows Mobile and PSV, but neither for Switch, nor for PS4, nor for Android, and port to Windows PC one year later to avoid damaging XBOne sales. Same thing for all the other Capcom games. This should attack Switch from every side, every possible competition direction, but without making other MS competitors stronger where they could be or already are dangerous for XBOne or Windows.
Same thing, if possible, with another publisher of games that usually sell very well on Ninty or Sony platforms.

yeah.... spend probably over 5 billion dollars on acquiring Capcom just to essentially TAKE AWAY Franchises from their competitors. Capcom is probably just not worth acquiring at this point for their IPs or someone would have attempted it in the last bunch of years where they weren't doing great imo

Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, Mega Man- they're all stellar franchises but don't justifiy taking over Capcom. Not that a move is even possible most likely , we've been over Japanese law on foreignors buying their companies 

I do agree that moneyhatting for a bunch of third party exclusives can't hurt though. They honestly should get Resident Evil exclusive on the Xbox. get some Square Enix games exclusive (the Tomb Raider game was a mistake obvs, but anyone could have seen that coming). maybe get a window of exclusivity for some giant game (lke a 2K game or some EA sports game).

The problem is MIcrosoft is too cheap with their video game division. They're unwilling to invest heavily into first party development and won't moneyhat third parties. I'm not sure what their longterm plan is beyond, again, just transitioning to a platform where Xbox is directly connected to their PC software/programming 

Terrible idea, they need their own Ips not take away from the others. How does it benefit xbox fans? They would get the game either way. Fortunately, the playstation marketshare is so much bigger that it makes that very unlikely.



mountaindewslave said:
FallingTitan said:

try Ori and the blind forest and Recore. some great MS games.

Ori is one of my fav games of all time. i think its a masterpiece beyond masterpieces.

no offense but Recore's reviews are far from stellar (and I think its available on Windows Live anyway)

i was talking to the other guy and just telling him what i liked.

i dont care waht reviewers said. i hated BoTW and reviewers loved that game. i sold it half way through.