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Eric Clanton, a former professor at Diablo Valley College in California, has been arrested in connection with a vicious attack at a pro-Trump rally in Berkeley last month.

Clanton was arrested on “three counts of suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon that isn’t a firearm and assault causing great bodily injury,” The East Bay Times reports. He is being held on a $200,000 bail.

Clanton stands accused of brutally assaulting three individuals with a U-shaped bicycle lock while disrupting a pro-Donald Trump rally in Berkeley, California on April 15 as part of a mob of anti-Trump “antifascists” (a.k.a., “antifa”).

Hopefully, regardless of our views on US politics we can all agree that Clanton's actions are reprehensible and should be condemned outright.  Regardless of how strongly you believe in your cause, when you turn to violence against peaceful demonstrators, YOU become the bad guy.

I assign a portion of the blame for this event to the corporate mainstream media.  The mainstream media has been implying over the past months that it may be acceptable to "punch a Nazi" while simultanneously accusing Trump of being a "Nazi" without proof and therefore leaving poorly adjusted individuals with the impression that it is OK to carry out violent acts against Trump supporters:  

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/richard-spencer-punched-attack.html

The mainstream corporate media should absolutely condemn these actions and clarify to their readers that violence against peaceful protestors is NEVER ok.  There is a big difference between people wanting to secure their country's borders versus people who actually hate non-white people and there is an even bigger difference when compared to people who actually carry out the extermination of minorities (which is what the Nazi's did and why violence was justified against them).   People need to wake up and look at what the mainstream media is trying to do here.  Who controls the mainstream coporate media?  Why might the elites in control of the mainstream media want to plant the seeds of revolution in the US using lies and exaggeration of the truth?  We all need to take a very pointed look at the mainstream media and ask why they appear to be inching us towards violent acts against our fellow citizens.



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Illusion said:

The mainstream corporate media should absolutely condemn these actions

Taking any blame away from the person who actually acts violent is a mistake in my mind. People are personally responsible for their actions. "Mainstream corporate media" is not their parent nor is it responsible for people's actions. I have a hard time believing a member of antifa was listening to the "mainstream corporate media" anyway. They are mostly borderline tankies for christ sake, obvously they aren't fans of the "mainstream corporate media" either. And I say this as somebody who is not a huge fan of the "mainstream corporate media" myself. 



American politics are cancerous

Mainstream media and the altright's bullshit 'alternative facts' have created a hostile environment in both the political and nonpolitical world.

Just a few hours ago we saw the story about the Nazi Trump supporter who killed two people. I mean, seriously, what's wrong with people? Americans are too up their ass to realize that most of us are dumbasses who will support anything which fits their agenda.


Currently, I think it'd be best to avoid American politics. It's reach has affected VGChartz too. I can't go one thread without seeing a nut calling me a triggered muslim SJW Obama supporter just because I disagree with them. I also can't go one day in life without being called 'islamophobic'for criticizing the Muslim community. I mean...seriously, what the fuck? How can a Muslim be islamophobic?


Anyways, things like this will probably be common for the next few years. Seems like people don't know how to disagree without violence.



 

sc94597 said:
Illusion said:

The mainstream corporate media should absolutely condemn these actions

Taking any blame away from the person who actually acts violent is a mistake in my mind. People are personally responsible for their actions. "Mainstream corporate media" is not their parent nor is it responsible for people's actions. I have a hard time believing a member of antifa was listening to the "mainstream corporate media" anyway. They are mostly borderline tankies for christ sake, obvously they aren't fans of the "mainstream corporate media" either. And I say this as somebody who is not a huge fan of the "mainstream corporate media" myself. 

I don't think he's saying take the blame off them. However, it's obvious that they were affected by some sort of agenda. Whether if it's Fox News, a popular Youtuber, or some idiot who posts conspiracy videos with 5 views per video, the rise of 'truth-seekers' is increasing at a dangerous rate. When you have two large groups believing the other side is evil, things will turn ugly very quickly



A "mainstream media" rant out of this? Seriously?

If you're taking away blame from the individual, shouldn't you be giving some to the President, too? After all, he seems to condone violence against protesters. Why not mention that?



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monocle_layton said:

 

sc94597 said:

Taking any blame away from the person who actually acts violent is a mistake in my mind. People are personally responsible for their actions. "Mainstream corporate media" is not their parent nor is it responsible for people's actions. I have a hard time believing a member of antifa was listening to the "mainstream corporate media" anyway. They are mostly borderline tankies for christ sake, obvously they aren't fans of the "mainstream corporate media" either. And I say this as somebody who is not a huge fan of the "mainstream corporate media" myself. 

I don't think he's saying take the blame off them. However, it's obvious that they were affected by some sort of agenda. Whether if it's Fox News, a popular Youtuber, or some idiot who posts conspiracy videos with 5 views per video, the rise of 'truth-seekers' is increasing at a dangerous rate. When you have two large groups believing the other side is evil, things will turn ugly very quickly

@Bolded Yes, but this agenda did not originate in the mainstream media. The modern Antifa has existed since the 80's and has precedent in the 20's and 30's in real fascist countries. 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Fascist_Action

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

It just has been imported to the U.S more recently as a reaction to the rise of the alt-right. Both movements are mostly internet-raised phenomenon, and have very little to do with the mainstream media other than they both hate it. Nevertheless, people are responsible for their actions and all accountability and anger should be directed towards them, otherwise the issue becomes one of vengeance against group X or group Y.



Some dude in my old city of Portland stabbed 3 people who were defending a Muslim woman today apparently the dude was harassing some lady who he thought was Muslim -people took anger to that, and he reacted by stabbing them. 2 dead and 1 in the hospital



Not a fan of Antifa or AFA. Opposing fascism should be a given for anyone who's pro democracy, free-speech, etc. but those groups just takes things way too far.

That said it's silly, to put it mildly, to use this to take a shot at the mainstream media as if they're responsible.



The funny thing about "Antifa" is that THEY in fact are actually the fascists.. We're living in an M Night Shyamalan movie!



 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident - all men and women created by the, go-you know.. you know the thing!" - Joe Biden

Well they have the right to remain silence anything they say or do xan and will get hold against them. They will find our soon they are not allowed to use violence against the so called Nazi's from ANTIFA. Anyway people are responsible for their actions not the media. And who is the media anyway it's just a bunch of individual informative formats which are either more right wing oriented or more left win. You also have youtube but that's pure crap in general.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar