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Ganoncrotch said:
Bermuda said:

Lmao what? Don't be so naive we all know who is responsible we don't even need to be told. It's obviously going to be a Muslim because it always is.

 

Every time something like this happens you automatically know it's a Muslim and when it's actually revealed...it's a Muslim. It's not going to some Chinese Buddhist.

 

Honestly it's thinking like this which creates bigger issues though, even if the person is a "muslim" he would still be an extremeist not the same at all as the 99.999999999% of people who practice the faith.

And saying you know who is responsible without knowing is a terrible way to think of the world, you should always know before you start to call out or retaliate.

Because I do know who is responsible​, just like everyone else. There's just the few SJWs who play the waiting game but....we all know, how could we not. I've seen this same thing before.

 

There's a terrorist incident and nobody knows whose done it, people obviously assume it's a Muslim, the odd naive guy says "We should wait to see first because that's just racist etc", then to nobodies at all it a Muslim, rinse and repeat with no difference.

 

It doesn't matter if he's an Extremist, he's still a Muslim. When was the last time a Extremist Buddhist or Sikh killed a bunch of people in a terrorist incident? It doesn't happen.



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This is the Price for every western country or also Nato country who just even consider to create a new Power outside the order. Putin,Trump,Erdogan,May, could have been Le Pen. All of them are willing to try something new. Outside the System. They can try if they are brave enough. They will fail. Condelences to the families for those who lost their child today. Hate that cruel world.



Ganoncrotch said:
shocking stuff.

Ease off on the religious hate until there is actual news as to who is behind this guys though, could well just be some lone nutjob. Don't presume you know what happened based on bias.

Well, thanks, I came here just to say this. We act like we aren't capable of doing atrocities like this. And we end making assumptions based on hate, bias and fear. Wait until more information comes to blame somebody, please. This is a tragedy, don't turn this intro a freaking religious war. 



areason said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Honestly it's thinking like this which creates bigger issues though, even if the person is a "muslim" he would still be an extremeist not the same at all as the 99.999999999% of people who practice the faith.

And saying you know who is responsible without knowing is a terrible way to think of the world, you should always know before you start to call out or retaliate.

It's not about extremism. It's about compatible cultures, when you have 80+ sharia courts in the UK it's not surprising that tensions arise. It's far criticsm to say that many of the European goverments have failed to deal with terrorism and that politicans beat around the bush in fears of being called islamophobes. 

Not sure if it's a case of beating around the bush and not doing anything about it... or actually considering that this was 19 people who died, I know it's a terrible thing but every day on Earth around 100k people die, on this day terrorists have added a total of 0.02% extra deaths today, a feat often achieved by McDonalds offering a new happy meal, I'm just saying, the Earth wont stop spinning over the idiot that did this act unless people start a riot and demand the whole world needs to change over it. I'm due a trip to the UK in 9 days time, seeing this news makes me happy that the airports might be less packed with people because of those who think the world needs to change or hide from this sort of behaviour.

 

The moment you start to round up and segragate religions because of the actions of a terrorist is a point where you are letting terrorists do exactly what the name implies, instill terror in people for absolutely no just cause and towards a group who have such a minority of idiots. It's like the old saying if you blame every Muslim for 9/11 it's the same as blaming every musician for Nickleback.



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Creepy stuff if this is indeed a terror attack. If this happened in France, it wouldn't have been too surprising, but the UK hasn't had any attacks this bad lately (the London attack a month ago wasn't as bad).



    

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Bermuda said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Honestly it's thinking like this which creates bigger issues though, even if the person is a "muslim" he would still be an extremeist not the same at all as the 99.999999999% of people who practice the faith.

And saying you know who is responsible without knowing is a terrible way to think of the world, you should always know before you start to call out or retaliate.

Because I do know who is responsible​, just like everyone else. There's just the few SJWs who play the waiting game but....we all know, how could we not. I've seen this same thing before.

 

There's a terrorist incident and nobody knows whose done it, people obviously assume it's a Muslim, the odd naive guy says "We should wait to see first because that's just racist etc", then to nobodies at all it a Muslim, rinse and repeat with no difference.

 

It doesn't matter if he's an Extremist, he's still a Muslim. When was the last time a Extremist Buddhist or Sikh killed a bunch of people in a terrorist incident? It doesn't happen.

FFS, what about that mass killing perpretated in Norway a few years ago by a far-right Norwegian citizen? What about the domestic violence which kills hundreds of women every year in the West? Don't act like we in the West are all saints and incapable of commit atrocities in a large scale. Evil is global. 

Heh, I guess that's more comfortable to blame everything on the outsider than try to correct our own flaws. Nobody is willing to admit guilt nowadays.



MoHasanie said:
Creepy stuff if this is indeed a terror attack. If this happened in France, it wouldn't have been too surprising, but the UK hasn't had any attacks this bad lately (the London attack a month ago wasn't as bad).

This is not a suprise at all. Everyone who leaves to order can be attacked.



Reuters suggests that it's a suicide bombing.



It will be interesting to hear what Trump has to say about this incident. Will it be an over reaction or witch hunt on Muslims?



Ganoncrotch said:
areason said:

It's not about extremism. It's about compatible cultures, when you have 80+ sharia courts in the UK it's not surprising that tensions arise. It's far criticsm to say that many of the European goverments have failed to deal with terrorism and that politicans beat around the bush in fears of being called islamophobes. 

Not sure if it's a case of beating around the bush and not doing anything about it... or actually considering that this was 19 people who died, I know it's a terrible thing but every day on Earth around 100k people die, on this day terrorists have added a total of 0.02% extra deaths today, a feat often achieved by McDonalds offering a new happy meal, I'm just saying, the Earth wont stop spinning over the idiot that did this act unless people start a riot and demand the whole world needs to change over it. I'm due a trip to the UK in 9 days time, seeing this news makes me happy that the airports might be less packed with people because of those who think the world needs to change or hide from this sort of behaviour.

 

The moment you start to round up and segragate religions because of the actions of a terrorist is a point where you are letting terrorists do exactly what the name implies, instill terror in people for absolutely no just cause and towards a group who have such a minority of idiots. It's like the old saying if you blame every Muslim for 9/11 it's the same as blaming every musician for Nickleback.

You didn't seem to get what i was saying. It's not about muslims, it's about islam, which isn't a secular religion. In islamic law, drinking is prohibited, atheism is prohibited, homosexuality is prohibited, apostacy is prohibited, and the list goes on. It isn't a compataible culture with the west, and when nations do not regulate what happens in mosques and when they let sharia courts open up, then you would be a fool not to expect issues. 

It's never been about muslims, but instead about the religion. And then people come and say "not all muslims", also it's quite funny because any person who drinks, does drugs, has sexual thoughts outside of marriage, or participates in any way shape or form to western culture is branded as a false followers of islam by the religions world leaders, and by it's law.