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Just to note, I don't think it was he himself that shot and killed the elephant. Someone else shot it and killed it, and it fell on him and killed him.



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I fail to see why hunting is even allowed.

It's a national park. The animals should be protected. I understand population control is a thing, but the officials are so corrupt I am sure hunting continues even when it's a banned season.



Nautilus said:
Turkish said:

exactly

He was a criminal who was contributing to species going extinct. I dont see you mourning for drug dealers or other criminals.

We are already doing more harm than good for the planet with global warming. And yeah we need to eat less meat, not only is it bad for your health but agriculture to raise cattle etc consumes most of our drinking water. Most of the meat is produced for the fast food industry. Fast foods should be banned, it will lead to a better world.

Assuming he was hunting a species that was protected, or in a season that was illegal, then I agree with you.But I dont see that in the article, so I have to assume you are just guessing.

As for your second point, its just nonsense.The moment I read that meat is bad for your health is the moment you lost your credibility, not to mention that is full of idealistic ideas that would never work in real life.

Processed red meat=carcinogen

Red meat=probable carcinogen

Dont believe me, ask the World Health Organization.

The world functioned without fast foods before Mcdonalds arrived and it could still function without them.



The article isn't addressing the bigger image. Was he always hunting with a license? Did he help contribute to the animals' declining population?

I'd rather not judge when i'm missing out on information



Nautilus said:
vivster said:

Nah. Why respect someone in death that you cannot respect in life? Why not be happy that earth has one less harmful individual? Do you hate animals that much?

My answer to you is the same i did for money, just one or two posts above

So I am guilty too for eating meat. If people want to condemn me for that, it's fine. I just don't see why he should not be judged for actions that a lot of people find ethically objectionable. Everyone is responsible for his own actions and it's prefectly fine to be glad that certain individuals are not part of society anymore.



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Turkish said:
Nautilus said:

Assuming he was hunting a species that was protected, or in a season that was illegal, then I agree with you.But I dont see that in the article, so I have to assume you are just guessing.

As for your second point, its just nonsense.The moment I read that meat is bad for your health is the moment you lost your credibility, not to mention that is full of idealistic ideas that would never work in real life.

Processed red meat=carcinogen

Red meat=probable carcinogen

Dont believe me, ask the World Health Organization.

The world functioned without fast foods before Mcdonalds arrived and it could still function without them.

If that were the case, and if prolonged "exposure" to red meat were anywhere that harmful, humanity would be long extint.

I think it goes without saying that everything in excess is bad for your health, and can even be fatal.Thats where that harmful aspect of meat probably comes from.I mean, it cant be healthy to just eat meat.But that applies to virtually everything.I mean, even nuts can be fatal if you eat enough of them.(Brazillian nuts, if Im not mistaken, can become poisonous if you eat too many of them).Im too lazy to research now, but Im 99,99999% sure the same can be said to vegetables, other types of meat, derivates from milk, and so on.

What makes your comment especially ignorant is that just because processed red meat is carcinogen(and that only happens when you keep eating excessively for years and years), and it highly likely it is so because of quimical products on it, you say that the normal red meat is also carcinogen.Its the same ignorance to say that vegetables and fruits are bad for your health just because the "industrialized ones", the ones that they use chimical products to increase productivity, extent its life and so on,  can be harmful for your health if you eat too many of them for too long.

To the last comment, I mean, yeah of course it did.But then again, we are not living in caves anymore and we dont need tecnology to live.But its an option and a nice one at that.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

vivster said:
Nautilus said:

My answer to you is the same i did for money, just one or two posts above

So I am guilty too for eating meat. If people want to condemn me for that, it's fine. I just don't see why he should not be judged for actions that a lot of people find ethically objectionable. Everyone is responsible for his own actions and it's prefectly fine to be glad that certain individuals are not part of society anymore.

If thats your opinion, then thats completely fine.I mean, that was part of his job, the danger of dieng that came with it.And while I still think its a bit hypocrite to be celebrating so much his death, on something that is supported by the law, I can respect your opinion.What ticks me off is the thread title, as if everyone shares the OP opinion on the matter and that celebrating a mans death, just because he does something you dont approve, is normal.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
Why this disrespectful title?He may have been a hunter and all, but he was still a person.I understand you dont like that, but be respectful.The man surely has a family, just like you and me.

He killed countless beings probably many painfully, he robbed many young of their parents, he got what he deserved   



Hiku said:
Nautilus said:
Why this disrespectful title?He may have been a hunter and all, but he was still a person.I understand you dont like that, but be respectful.The man surely has a family, just like you and me.

If he just kills animals for sport, not for food to survive, etc, then I have the utmost disdain for that person. He may have other good qualities, but I doubt it would outweigh this cowardly animal cruelty.

If someone murdered my cat, and then they got killed in the process, I would think it serves them right.

Fair enough, even though I still think that the example you gave and what actually happened are two different scenarios.

What I think its really wrong with this thread is the way the OP treats the situation.You may think that the guy for being a hunter, deserved it and all.But he "payed his dues"?He was still a man, one that had a wife and five children, and that just  began on this business because he needed the momey for college.What Im saying is, its not a black and white situation.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Rab said:
Nautilus said:
Why this disrespectful title?He may have been a hunter and all, but he was still a person.I understand you dont like that, but be respectful.The man surely has a family, just like you and me.

He killed countless beings probably many painfully, he robbed many young of their parents, he got what he deserved   

Im asnwering to you the same I answered to Money:

Yes.How can you be so cold about him?If you read the article, he has a wife and 5 children.He started this business not because he enjoys seeing animals squirming in pain, but because he needed money for college.And I mean, humanity hunts animals for its entire existence(and animals do the same).Outside of the possibility of him torturing an animal just for the fun, he did nothing wrong.And as far as I can see, its all legal, and nothing shady about his business.

I always find it funny when people acusse these guys of being "mass murderers".Do you eat meat?Then you also are a mass murderer, because you incentivize the killing of animals, even if they are raised for it, to harvest their meat.Do you eat fish?Then you also are a mass murderer, because you incentivize fishers to go out in the see and capture and kill the fish out there for our consuption.Do you eat vegetable and plants?Then you re also murderer.They are also living beings, and just because they dont scream and cry dosent make them less living.There are more and more researches indicating that plants have councioness, so they are as much alive as any other animal.

Its very hyprocrite to be judgemental of these stuff because you are distant from them.Dont get me wrong, I dont like it either.But I wont judge here when Im as much "guilty" as them, like you are doing.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1