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Locknuts said:
LurkerJ said:

I don't think it was foolish of us to expect things to turn out differently. Trump was ridiculed and laughed at by everyone, including me, from the very beginnings of his campaign, but he stood his ground. He adopted, what seemed to most at that time at least, extremely unpopular positions on internal and foreign policy, he spoke the unthinkable about making friends with Russia, he called out Islam for what it is. He didn't need brexit to be emboldened either, he happened before brexit. No one expected him to win, including him. The amount of scrutiny he received way before he established his fanbase was enough of an excuse to pull out or make him change his stance on major issues like immigration and Islam. He didn't. 

I think we should look at brexit and Trump differently. Let's take a step back and admit that neither are inheretly good or bad. Capatilizing on the momentum is important, doing more to improve your living conditions is important. You can't just elect a president and call it a day. I never understood why Trump supporters were overjoyed by the fact that republicans hold the senate and the house. You mean to tell me these corporates shills are a good thing to have on your side? Ok then.. Enjoy watching them capitilize on the momentum you started.

 

You may be right. I do believe that whatever is causing Trump to back down so much is coming from within his own party.

Back down from what? 

Passing a budget that overwhlemingly favors the mega rich and promises huge tax breaks for them while cutting services and programs for average people?

Or how about a health care plan that cuts insurance for 23 million people? 

Those are about as Republican as you're going to get. Trump doesn't really give a shit about any position anyway, he says stuff to get "ratings", he isn't principled about any of it though. 



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Soundwave said:
Locknuts said:

You may be right. I do believe that whatever is causing Trump to back down so much is coming from within his own party.

Back down from what? 

Passing a budget that overwhlemingly favors the mega rich and promises huge tax breaks for them while cutting services and programs for average people?

Or how about a health care plan that cuts insurance for 23 million people? 

Those are about as Republican as you're going to get. Trump doesn't really give a shit about any position anyway, he says stuff to get "ratings", he isn't principled about any of it though. 

He was absolutely against foreign aggression and was going to focus on America - then he bombed Syria. America acting like the world's police all over again.

Now he's softened his tone on Islam.

I'm just waiting to see what else he backs down on. The wall? We'll see.

P.S. Obamacare was shit.



Major thing i didn't like about the visit is the weapon sales to saudi. Oh America when will you change.



I can't



I just can't deal....