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PAOerfulone on 22 May 2017
Dr.Vita said:
SpokenTruth said:

If Switch in March/April with shortages outsold PS4/Xone in Nov/Dec, that would not be good for PS4/Xone.


Actually the shortages for PS4/XOne in 2013 were huge, much bigger than Switch shortages now.
And PS4/XOne launched simultaneously so they were competing directly against each other unlike Switch which had no big launch competition.

I can recall shortages for the PS4 in2013 to the first half of 2014, but the Xbox One?...
Before the system got it's first price cut and dropped the Kinect, it was barely selling over 40k a week, which was around the same level as the Vita and Wii U. 
If your main, number 1 system is selling at the same level or less than that of the Wii U and Vita... YOU. FUCKED. UP.
The main reason sales weren't as high as some people hoped or expected initially was because... nobody wanted it. It was gathering dust sitting in store shelves the first 6 months of its life.
A lot of people seem to have forgotten this, but the biggest reason why the PS4 is selling the huge numbers it is now and the Xbox One, not so much, all goes back to one month before E3 2013, right up to the event itself, and that ABSOLUTEY DISASTROUS, Xbox One Reveal.
- $500
- Mandatory Kinect connectivity in order for your system to even work.
- Anticonsumer DRM policies
- It's over emphasis on TV and DEemphasis on actual games.
All Sony had to do was the opposite and just NOT fuck up, and they automatically won the 8th generation.



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Sprash on 23 May 2017
Dr.Vita said:
SpokenTruth said:

If Switch in March/April with shortages outsold PS4/Xone in Nov/Dec, that would not be good for PS4/Xone.


Actually the shortages for PS4/XOne in 2013 were huge, much bigger than Switch shortages now.
And PS4/XOne launched simultaneously so they were competing directly against each other unlike Switch which had no big launch competition.

Yes that's correct, the switch had all the attention alone for it's launch. Can't imagine how much the ps4 or xone would have sold without the other console.



 

 

zorg1000 on 23 May 2017
Sprash said:
Dr.Vita said:


Actually the shortages for PS4/XOne in 2013 were huge, much bigger than Switch shortages now.
And PS4/XOne launched simultaneously so they were competing directly against each other unlike Switch which had no big launch competition.

Yes that's correct, the switch had all the attention alone for it's launch. Can't imagine how much the ps4 or xone would have sold without the other console.

the funny thing is, like Rol mentioned, a few months ago the general consensus was that Switch would be "dead on arrival" because it cost the same as PS4/XBO with no game bundled and didnt have the big Q1 AAA 3rd party titles like Resident Evil, Mass Effect, Ghost Recon, etc.

now many of these same people are coming up with any excuse they can think of to make the successful launch window not seem impressive.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Barkley on 23 May 2017

Good work on this thread. Switch is performing great at the moment.



barneystinson69 on 23 May 2017
zorg1000 said:
Sprash said:

Yes that's correct, the switch had all the attention alone for it's launch. Can't imagine how much the ps4 or xone would have sold without the other console.

the funny thing is, like Rol mentioned, a few months ago the general consensus was that Switch would be "dead on arrival" because it cost the same as PS4/XBO with no game bundled and didnt have the big Q1 AAA 3rd party titles like Resident Evil, Mass Effect, Ghost Recon, etc.

now many of these same people are coming up with any excuse they can think of to make the successful launch window not seem impressive.

Who said that? Many pessimistic people (including myself) expected a strong launch for the system, and a tapering off over time. Given were sales are so far, there is no way of knowing which direction the system could head.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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barneystinson69 on 23 May 2017
RolStoppable said:
Dr.Vita said:

Actually the shortages for PS4/XOne in 2013 were huge, much bigger than Switch shortages now.
And PS4/XOne launched simultaneously so they were competing directly against each other unlike Switch which had no big launch competition.

It was only a few months ago that we had "concerned" people wondering how Switch could prevail at $300 when the same amount of money can be spent on a PS4 or XB1 with a game. Oh, and of course the PS4 and XB1 have hundreds of games while Switch has virtually nothing.

I am glad to see that the PS4 and XB1 have now been relegated to pushovers.
PlatformN. AmericaEuropeJapanGlobal
104,700 88,750 43,512 278,457
85,214 102,906 29,163 268,728
63,364 28,758 209 104,703
26,595 14,485 33,476 77,712
454 3,789 7,509 15,481
1,109 2,601 471 4,541
326 1,540 1,683 4,528
651 679 N/A 1,657

I hardly consider a 10k difference a "pushover", especially considering this is within the first month of Switch sales. The XB1 has always performed around 100k/week outside of the holidays, so it is doing what is expected...



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

zorg1000 on 23 May 2017
barneystinson69 said:
zorg1000 said:

the funny thing is, like Rol mentioned, a few months ago the general consensus was that Switch would be "dead on arrival" because it cost the same as PS4/XBO with no game bundled and didnt have the big Q1 AAA 3rd party titles like Resident Evil, Mass Effect, Ghost Recon, etc.

now many of these same people are coming up with any excuse they can think of to make the successful launch window not seem impressive.

Who said that? Many pessimistic people (including myself) expected a strong launch for the system, and a tapering off over time. Given were sales are so far, there is no way of knowing which direction the system could head.

alot of people



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Wyrdness on 23 May 2017
barneystinson69 said:
zorg1000 said:

the funny thing is, like Rol mentioned, a few months ago the general consensus was that Switch would be "dead on arrival" because it cost the same as PS4/XBO with no game bundled and didnt have the big Q1 AAA 3rd party titles like Resident Evil, Mass Effect, Ghost Recon, etc.

now many of these same people are coming up with any excuse they can think of to make the successful launch window not seem impressive.

Who said that? Many pessimistic people (including myself) expected a strong launch for the system, and a tapering off over time. Given were sales are so far, there is no way of knowing which direction the system could head.

Funny because I see a number of people in these two linked threads saying other wise.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221724&page=1#

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=224719&page=1



barneystinson69 on 23 May 2017
RolStoppable said:
Wyrdness said:

Funny because I see a number of people in these two linked threads saying other wise.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221724&page=1#

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=224719&page=1

Might as well add a direct link to barney's wisdom.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8249838

Where exactly did I say the console would flop? 

Also, I expected 35 million sales IF it was a handheld and home console replacement (which its pretty much confirmed to have been). I don't know why early sales are an indication of future trends...



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 on 23 May 2017
RolStoppable said:
barneystinson69 said:

Who said that? Many pessimistic people (including myself) expected a strong launch for the system, and a tapering off over time. Given were sales are so far, there is no way of knowing which direction the system could head.

Pessimistic people didn't expect a strong launch, they expected Switch to go the way of the Wii U. The general expectation of all the doubters was that Switch would win March NPD because it's launch month, right afterwards things would go back to the PS4 winning.

Given that Switch won April NPD and is on track to win May NPD, it is already known that your lifetime sales prediction of less than Wii U is silly, stupid, preposterous, moronic, idiotic and Kelly Bundy.

Oh please Rol. You know very well I explained the circumstances for that in order to happen, and I had two predictions. If it was a handheld and home console replacement, it would sell 35 million. If it was replacing just the Wii U but still selling as well as it has been so far, I would've eaten my hat. 



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).