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Forums - Politics Discussion - Rod Rosenstein appoints special independant counsel to head investigation into Trump

Also Muller looks like a great choice for special counsel, he's someone with a lot of experience as former FBI director and a seasoned veteran in prosecutions with nothing to prove. Lets see once and for all if there actually is a fire behind all that russian smoke that's been peddled out by anonymous sources and some investigations.



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Hiku said:
Goatseye said:

I know some here wants for people forget about Russia or make it pass as a conspiracy theory.

Well, Trump and trumpeteers do not help.

Sheriff David Clark was just assigned a position in the Department of Homeland Security. And:

Clarke went to Russia to speak with Russian Foreign Minister (US sanctioned), a hardline Putin deputy, while representing NRA. 

You've got to wonder how many back channels does this administration have?

You're not really helping with posts like that.
There's nothing wrong with meeting with Russian officials or others. Especially when it's openly made public. Happens all the time. The problem is if there are signs of harmful collusion involved.

I'm not helping with what? Did I accuse anyone? 

Signs of harmful collusion is detected when investigated.



Hiku said:
Goatseye said:

I'm not helping with what? Did I accuse anyone? 

Signs of harmful collusion is detected when investigated.

With this "I know some here wants for people forget about Russia or make it pass as a conspiracy theory."

You give people ammo to delegitimize opinions concerning the actual investigation by associating it with the judgement behind a baseless conspiracy theory. "Oh look, they think everythhing is about Russia. No wonder they think Trump is working with them. Fake news."

Better to stick to the facts of this case and they'll have a much harder time arguing against it.

Arguments is what helps clarify this case.

Trump is known to have surrounded himself with multiple individuals as back channel for foreign interest. 

This case is moving based on dot connecting. At this stage, American people have every reason to be suspicious of anything.



This is like some bizarre chapter in a Deus Ex game only in those games the chaos is more believable.



WASHINGTON — Michael T. Flynn told President Trump’s transition team weeks before the inauguration that he was under federal investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign, according to two people familiar with the case.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/michael-flynn-donald-trump-national-security-adviser.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

Pence was the head of transition team, just to put this into perspective



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Goatseye said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

I've finally figured it out.

The Trump Russia hysteria is the left's version of the Obama Muslim hoopla the right kept pissing about. Two sides to the same bullshit coin. Us Libertarians continue to just sit back and laugh at both of these idiotic theories 

Talking about idiotic theories nothing tops Gary Johnson's ignorance on foreign relations/policies. 

What a buffoon. Is Gary Johnson the guy that represents you?

No not really. I was actually more of a Bernie guy. At least until the DNC and media colluded against him to shut him out as a nominee (you know, the ACTUAL collusion that went on in America recently?) and sold out to Hillary and her banker friends on Wallstreet.

I'm actually to the left on most issues, but based off their track record of the past few years I'm becoming increasingly embarrassed to associate myself with many on my own side, thanks in part to insane conspiracy theories like this.. 



 

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Bandorr said:
Can Trump fire Paul Ryan? There is no way Trump would let Paul Ryan be president.

So I think Trump will get rid of Paul Ryan. Then take Pence down with him.

So from what I can tell Orrin Hatch will be the new president. Which is frightening because after him, it is Rex Tillerson.

No Trump can't fire Ryan, he has no power over the position, it is an elected role



Goatseye said:
Eagle367 said:

So cent folks! As innocent as a baby boy, no one is more innocent than Trump! The most innocent person you've ever seen.

USA can die as a nation for all I care but Drumpf is more dangerous for the world than Kim Jong In and George W. Bush junior so if he is gone at least the countdown to midnight will slow down a little on the doomsday clock.

Well Russia is basically the wolf of USA where the USA is the boy and the village is the world except in this one the wolf doesn't come at the end of the story. Russia is a boogeyman for Americans. And the world laughs at the stupidity of both sides all the time like how the Americans think they are on some moral high ground with some manifest destiny bringing the heaven that is democracy to the world. Of one word has always been synonymous with Americans its delusional

What does that even have to do with Americans trying to preserve their democracy? 

Most Americans know our government is intrusive and very harmful to world stability. That's the reason we wanted to pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan and reduce lobbyist influence in our political due process. 

It's 2017, not 1960s.

Sorry to burst your bubble but many americans still believe they are in the right in the middle east and think they are on some moral highground. You might not but others do



Just a guy who doesn't want to be bored. Also

Even if the Trump administration talked with Russia, it is not worth an investigation. It would have been a minor mistake and a violation of a strange law they did not know of, but there is no relevance at all. A better relationship with Russia would be good for the American people, the American economy and the world.

The focus of the investigation should be why the Democratic party killed their own guy after leaking internal mails to Wikileaks. This is the more important part of the investigation, and will prove that Russia has nothing to do with the election results.



etking said:


The focus of the investigation should be why the Democratic party killed their own guy after leaking internal mails to Wikileaks. This is the more important part of the investigation, and will prove that Russia has nothing to do with the election results.

Don't spew this bullshit. The investigator said he was misquoted and the family of the slain DNC person said to stop spreading this bullshit and using his death for these conspiracies that aren't based on anything



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