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Hardware wise my opinion hasn't changed. It's great as a handheld, and relatively depressing for me as a home console. Unfortunately the latter is how i'd almost exclusivity be using it, so it's hard for me to be particularly enthusiastic.

I will get one eventually for its exclusives, and i don't doubt i'll enjoy them, but i expect i'll always feel a bit irritated that i have to play them on something so far behind almost everything else i use. My feelings towards the standard PS4's hardware have slowly shifted towards the negative (currently at "eh, could be worse"), and that was half~ a generation ahead of a docked Switch 3+ years ago.

It's not all negative though. As poor as it might be for me as a home console, it's still a colossal leap over the 3DS. Until now I've had to play a lot of my favourite series (e.g. Pokemon) with genuinely poor graphics, on a tiny screen, and in a fashion I've grown to dislike. The Switch significantly improves the first of those, and makes the latter two irrelevant. I doubt i'll ever properly like the Switch as a system, but i'll appreciate what it does for me with handheld IP.



I'm loving it. commuting and traveling has never been this fast before.. the switch is a time-machine. confirmed.

Best moment yet, sitting next to a 9yo kid on a plane and handing over a joycon to play some mariokart cause i had noone to play with. she joined in, 2 races later and i handed over another to her dad, good times :)
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NATO said:
i don't like playing it in handheld mode, for me the shoulder buttons feel awkward in that mode.
I found myself accidentally hitting shoulder buttons I did not intend to while playing Zelda, likewise the analog stick buttons are too easy to press, many times while doing tests of strength link would crouch mid-fight because the analog stick depressed too easily.

Same problem is on Wii U. It's a case of retarded control scheme, not the hardware fault.



Loving my Switch - I really thought I'd be using the docked mode more but I've actually played it handheld/tabletop 90% of the time. I just love the stripped down, no bs nature of it, and how you can just instantly turn it on, pick it up and start playing very quickly at home or on the go. Often I'll just pick it up to play 10 minutes of Puyo Puyo or Mario Kart with a baseball game or something in the background, then just put it down and move on to something else. And with my short attention span and my desire to often process multiple streams of entertainment/information at once, this thing fits me like a glove.. Hell even now I'm typing this while sipping a drink and watching TV in the background heh. 

With my XB One it's like.. go to my basement, turn on the TV, switch the input, turn on controller, sift through the menu, select game, sometimes wait for a stupid update, adjust the volume, wait for endless load times, plug the mic in if I'm playing with friends, etc.. And god forbid I'm playing a NEW game I need to install for the first time.. Switch is litterally - push button, select game, boom. You're playing..

Also love the freeing nature of playing the separate joycons. I wasn't sure how I'd feel about the small separate controller components, and even bought a pro controller just in case I wasn't fond of them, but as it turns out I've barely touched my pro controller and have sworn by the separate joycons. I haven't even really used that middle controller.. thing that you attach the joycons to. All the versatility, simple nature and portability are all attributes I appreciate, the antithesis of PS4/Xb One in many ways. Switch has made me realize how much I don't particularly like sitting hunched over with two hands using one clunky controller tethered to my TV. It's also cool how we're finally back to two controllers out of the box. I was a little concerned about how small the joycon is playing it sideways, and how close the joystick is to the buttons, but it feels better than it looks. Still not too crazy about the R and L buttons when playing it on its side but the strap attachments help rectify that. 

Gamewise, the Switch already has a really solid library, which is more than I could say about the Wii in its first few months. Zelda BotW is my favorite Zelda since the original, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is probably the definitive Mario Kart game, Puyo Puyo Tetris might be the best and most content-filled puzzle game I've played and there have also been some surprise hits under the radar I've been addicted to like Has Been Heroes and to a lesser degree, Isaac. What Switch is missing is a truly EXCLUSIVE game we can point to that you can ONLY play on Switch, built from the ground up that really shows off the hardware, HD rumble, etc. But that will come in time. And the portability adds another level of value and uniqueness to the ports/remasters anyway. 



 

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Boberkun said:
NATO said:
i don't like playing it in handheld mode, for me the shoulder buttons feel awkward in that mode.
I found myself accidentally hitting shoulder buttons I did not intend to while playing Zelda, likewise the analog stick buttons are too easy to press, many times while doing tests of strength link would crouch mid-fight because the analog stick depressed too easily.

Same problem is on Wii U. It's a case of retarded control scheme, not the hardware fault.

analog stick button being too easy to accidentally push isnt an issue on ps4/xbo, it's a hardware issue.



After playing the Just dance demo, it really made me want to buy the full game! Playing in table top mode makes it seem really cool! And it feels awesome dancing around with the joycons xD



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I don't own one, but I've spent quite some time at work playing it (one of the kids there has one, I've had at least a good 15-20 hours on it), mostly Zelda and Mario Kart, but also games like Shovel Knight and Snipperclips. The games are mostly really good (MK8 Deluxe is the best MK since MK64 imo), but I find the joy-con controller(s) absolutely atrocious, especially when divided in two for multiplayer, it's just way too small and forces your fingers into awkward positions, shoulder buttons and analogue stick feel too "shallow" and lack feedback, main buttons are so close together, after 15-20 minutes of play, my fingers cramp up.
Then again, I haven't really enjoyed a base controller on any console since the DS3 and Xbox 360 controller, so this is nothing spectacular.

The Switch is really, really quick when it comes to shutting down or starting/resuming games and it doesn't force you to sit through 1-2 minutes of intro logos and other bullshit, UI is clean but quite bland for now. Apps and features are quite lacking and even if the console is brand new, proper youtube and netflix support should have been there day one, especially with its tablet form factor, this would have scored major points with many consumers and gamers and is a wasted opportunity.

For now, it looks, plays and behaves like a new console in most ways and it's neither worse nor better than any other console in their first months, in my opinion. And since I don't actually own one, it's hard to be specific or dive into details, some features might be a lot better and some might be worse, hard to say. As for the handheld aspect; this still holds zero value for me since I never enjoyed handheld gaming and the joy-con's seem even worse when attached to the sides, I would go absolutely mad playing it that way for any period or time, short or long.

If I'm getting one myself, I would need a different controller, a lot more software and some more proper features. A solid retro/BC shop would also sell easily to me since I'm a sucker for retro gaming and only the PC has a bigger potential library of greatest hits than Nintendo, this is such an understated feature to emphasize for them with this device, especially given the apparent demographic they're aiming for! Get to work!
Overall, I can see myself buying a Switch in the future, but I never, ever buy consoles within their first 12 months or so, and this is no exception, prices would need to come down heavily as well, the console itself and especially controllers are crazy expensive here (425 dollars for the base unit alone and 105 dollars for one Pro controller, a pair of joy-con's cost about 125 dollars and the cost of added storage that I'm sure to need make this whole deal absurdly steep for what I get right now).



NATO said:
i don't like playing it in handheld mode, for me the shoulder buttons feel awkward in that mode.
I found myself accidentally hitting shoulder buttons I did not intend to while playing Zelda, likewise the analog stick buttons are too easy to press, many times while doing tests of strength link would crouch mid-fight because the analog stick depressed too easily.

other than that its okay i guess?, the whole dock and play thing isn't all that impressive to me as ive been doing it with pc games and my android tablet, (though, via streaming), for years, and the switches low battery life puts me off actually taking it anywhere there will not be a power source anyway.

Where are you going daily that you are focused on a device for 3+hours straight?  For me, the Switch has been perfect for lunch breaks, walking the dog, going for walks in the park, waiting for a movie to start at the theater, waiting for food to arrive to the table at a restaurant, etc. 



DarthMetalliCube said:

Loving my Switch - I really thought I'd be using the docked mode more but I've actually played it handheld/tabletop 90% of the time. I just love the stripped down, no bs nature of it, and how you can just instantly turn it on, pick it up and start playing very quickly at home or on the go. Often I'll just pick it up to play 10 minutes of Puyo Puyo or Mario Kart with a baseball game or something in the background, then just put it down and move on to something else. And with my short attention span and my desire to often process multiple streams of entertainment/information at once, this thing fits me like a glove.. Hell even now I'm typing this while sipping a drink and watching TV in the background heh. 

With my XB One it's like.. go to my basement, turn on the TV, switch the input, turn on controller, sift through the menu, select game, sometimes wait for a stupid update, adjust the volume, wait for endless load times, plug the mic in if I'm playing with friends, etc.. And god forbid I'm playing a NEW game I need to install for the first time.. Switch is litterally - push button, select game, boom. You're playing..

Also love the freeing nature of playing the separate joycons. I wasn't sure how I'd feel about the small separate controller components, and even bought a pro controller just in case I wasn't fond of them, but as it turns out I've barely touched my pro controller and have sworn by the separate joycons. I haven't even really used that middle controller.. thing that you attach the joycons to. All the versatility, simple nature and portability are all attributes I appreciate, the antithesis of PS4/Xb One in many ways. Switch has made me realize how much I don't particularly like sitting hunched over with two hands using one clunky controller tethered to my TV. It's also cool how we're finally back to two controllers out of the box. I was a little concerned about how small the joycon is playing it sideways, and how close the joystick is to the buttons, but it feels better than it looks. Still not too crazy about the R and L buttons when playing it on its side but the strap attachments help rectify that. 

Gamewise, the Switch already has a really solid library, which is more than I could say about the Wii in its first few months. Zelda BotW is my favorite Zelda since the original, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is probably the definitive Mario Kart game, Puyo Puyo Tetris might be the best and most content-filled puzzle game I've played and there have also been some surprise hits under the radar I've been addicted to like Has Been Heroes and to a lesser degree, Isaac. What Switch is missing is a truly EXCLUSIVE game we can point to that you can ONLY play on Switch, built from the ground up that really shows off the hardware, HD rumble, etc. But that will come in time. And the portability adds another level of value and uniqueness to the ports/remasters anyway. 

Same here!  I was using that joycon controller dock attachment for the first week, and then I forgot to take it with me once and realized that I actually prefer playing with them unattached.  And after playing split screen Puyo Puyo Tetris with my wife, I too realized that the Switch is the first console in a long while to come with 2 controllers straight out of the box.  I think the value there has been downplayed/overlooked by a lot of people.