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Zkuq said:
glimmer_of_hope said:

Wow! The first scenario is by far the worst! If they are willing to leak that, what else are they going to leak! That person is more like a mole. Make no mistake there will be more people fired within the next few weeks! Can you not tell the difference? If you felt as though POTUS did/said something wrong you bring it to who you report to, your boss, not to the fucking media!!!!! Simple really.

Feel free to leaf through this mornings "media" briefing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMaRFQY23nA He takes questions from the "media" around 5:50

I see we have a fundamental disagreement about what kind of leaks are bad... Anyway, the public must know about the president's incompetence, because at best, that's what this is. The public won't know it if the leakers report it to their boss (who could be Trump himself, you know). I'll be worried about leaks when they reveal something that threatens the nation, not when they reveal the incompetence of the president.

I'm not going to watch a relatively long video to get my answers, but thanks anyway. Until I run into a written version, I'm just going to assume he's spinning the truth like before.

The problem is you wont hear about those leaks, because they will be leaked to the enemy, not the so called media! "I'm just going to assume he's spinning the truth like before." Well I provided you a link. You clearly want to believe your watered down delusional version of events...no surprise. Usually the "Never Trump" crowd run away from facts.



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Zkuq said:
glimmer_of_hope said:

Brings up statements made 12 years ago! When he was a private citizen and not even close to being in politics lmao! Bill Clinton actually gets a blowjob in the Oval Office and lies to Americans.......gets less hassle! 

So, do you think he has changed? Do you think such comments are acceptable even for a private person? Also, I'm not fully familiar with Clinton's case, but I would assume he didn't objectify women like Trump did. Clinton basically cheated on her wife, but that's relatively common. I'm not saying it's acceptable, but it's not even on the same scale as what Trump said.

So you just assume people never change? People should have statement held over their head for an infinite amount of time? Thats very shallow thinking!

And im not going to touch on what you said about Clinton.....everything about that is wrong!



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glimmer_of_hope said:
Zkuq said:

I see we have a fundamental disagreement about what kind of leaks are bad... Anyway, the public must know about the president's incompetence, because at best, that's what this is. The public won't know it if the leakers report it to their boss (who could be Trump himself, you know). I'll be worried about leaks when they reveal something that threatens the nation, not when they reveal the incompetence of the president.

I'm not going to watch a relatively long video to get my answers, but thanks anyway. Until I run into a written version, I'm just going to assume he's spinning the truth like before.

The problem is you wont hear about those leaks, because they will be leaked to the enemy, not the so called media! "I'm just going to assume he's spinning the truth like before." Well I provided you a link. You clearly want to believe your watered down delusional version of events...no surprise. Usually the "Never Trump" crowd run away from facts.

So, do you have any evidence to back up your claim? Also, provide me with a written version and I'll gladly discuss the matter. I have better use for my time than watching a stupid video that probably won't even support your claims.

glimmer_of_hope said:
Zkuq said:

So, do you think he has changed? Do you think such comments are acceptable even for a private person? Also, I'm not fully familiar with Clinton's case, but I would assume he didn't objectify women like Trump did. Clinton basically cheated on her wife, but that's relatively common. I'm not saying it's acceptable, but it's not even on the same scale as what Trump said.

So you just assume people never change? People should have statement held over their head for an infinite amount of time? Thats very shallow thinking!

And im not going to touch on what you said about Clinton.....everything about that is wrong!

People can change, but they're not guaranteed to change much. I'm also under the impression that older people don't change as easily, and Trump wasn't exactly young when he made that remark. He's also as arrogant as ever, so I have no reason to believe he has changed. What makes you think Trump has changed?

If everything about what I said about Clinton is wrong, I'm sure you'll have no difficuty elaborating. Please do. Especially if there are factual errors, I'd like to hear about those.



glimmer_of_hope said:
Zkuq said:

So, do you think he has changed? Do you think such comments are acceptable even for a private person? Also, I'm not fully familiar with Clinton's case, but I would assume he didn't objectify women like Trump did. Clinton basically cheated on her wife, but that's relatively common. I'm not saying it's acceptable, but it's not even on the same scale as what Trump said.

So you just assume people never change? People should have statement held over their head for an infinite amount of time? Thats very shallow thinking!

And im not going to touch on what you said about Clinton.....everything about that is wrong!

"You know, it doesn’t really matter what they write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”

"Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that?" (said last year to Carly Fiorina)

"A woman who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10."

“Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?” (said about his daughter who was 16 years old at the time, as any father would remark)

"I don't think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."

 

But President Man-Baby was only a mere 55-60 years old then, obviously he's matured now at the ripe age of 70. 

 



Ljink96 said:
And yet some dipshit is going to support him on this too. Like, does anything matter anymore? I mean, if Obama had even did half the shit Trump has done he'd been impeached within his first 100 days, guaranteed. This guy needs to be impeached yesterday.

First off, he's the friggen POTUS. He has the authority to share ANY intelligence at ANY classification level with ANYONE he deems fit. Second the other US official in the room, a retired US Army general, has said what they talked about wasn't out of line for the meeting and that it was 'wholly appropriate.' And third, who the hell leaked the nature of the material supposedly discussed in that meeting? If it was highly classified and too sensitive for the media to publish the details, that person is guilty of a serious felony. 

So, of course some 'dipshit' is gonna and should, support him on this. He absolutely has the authority to talk to whomever about whatever with regards to intelligence sharing. The leaker does not. But never mind the ACTUAL crime that has happened, let's impeach Trump. The bias and absolute vitriol of Trump haters in the media is reaching a fever pitch and the sheeple are eating it up. 

Furthermore, our last POTUS meddled in the Israeli elections by sending taxpayer funds to aid Netanyahu’s opponent, allowed the Flynn conversations to leak, which gave the Russians a heads up their ambassador was being actively surveilled which means that they now know whatever counter measures they were taking were ineffective at avoiding our surveillance, was caught on mic saying to the Russian, Medvedev, he’d have more flexibility after the elections, also shared intelligence with Russia over ISIS operations in Syria, which is what the supposed Trump conversation was about. Not to mention he presided over the Uranium One deal, which was signed off on by Hillary Clinton and the UCIF, which saw a chunk of the USs uranium assets, sold to the Russians. 

The funniest thing is how all of a sudden we're all crazy about what a threat the Russians are to our democracy and yet it was Obama and the left who made fun of Romney in 2012. Something about the 80's wanting their foreign policy back. But now it's Russia, Russia, Russia. 

I could go on and on. This guy has not had a break from the media or the left since the day he won the election. He didn’t even get the traditional “honeymoon” period most POTUSs get. It’s been full force #RESIST since day one. Plus, anonymous source after anonymous source from the deep state leaking anything and everything they possibly can. 




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Soundwave said:
glimmer_of_hope said:

So you just assume people never change? People should have statement held over their head for an infinite amount of time? Thats very shallow thinking!

And im not going to touch on what you said about Clinton.....everything about that is wrong!

"You know, it doesn’t really matter what they write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”

"Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that?" (said last year to Carly Fiorina)

"A woman who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10."

“Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?” (said about his daughter who was 16 years old at the time, as any father would remark)

"I don't think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."

 

But President Man-Baby was only a mere 55-60 years old then, obviously he's matured now at the ripe age of 70. 

 

So let me guess! In 2004 when Hillary Clinton said in the US Senate that "marriage is a sacred bond between man and woman" that doesnt count right? But now she is all for gay marriage because she wanted votes. Nothing tastes better than Liberal tears



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glimmer_of_hope said:
Soundwave said:

"You know, it doesn’t really matter what they write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”

"Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that?" (said last year to Carly Fiorina)

"A woman who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10."

“Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?” (said about his daughter who was 16 years old at the time, as any father would remark)

"I don't think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."

 

But President Man-Baby was only a mere 55-60 years old then, obviously he's matured now at the ripe age of 70. 

 

So let me guess! In 2004 when Hillary Clinton said in the US Senate that "marriage is a sacred bond between man and woman" that doesnt count right? But now she is all for gay marriage because she wanted votes. Nothing tastes better than Liberal tears

You're unbelievably adept at changing the subject and ignoring uncomfortable arguments, I've noticed recently. Carry on, you're doing a great job!



Zkuq said:
glimmer_of_hope said:

So let me guess! In 2004 when Hillary Clinton said in the US Senate that "marriage is a sacred bond between man and woman" that doesnt count right? But now she is all for gay marriage because she wanted votes. Nothing tastes better than Liberal tears

You're unbelievably adept at changing the subject and ignoring uncomfortable arguments, I've noticed recently. Carry on, you're doing a great job!

How do you mean? For a guy too busy to watch a White House briefing you certainly have enough time to hang around starting arguments with me!



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Nah, what was shared is part of the agreement over Syria, they are trying to avoid striking each other there, media lied about Russia being involved in the elections and now they are using same lie again



-CraZed- said:

First off, he's the friggen POTUS. He has the authority to share ANY intelligence at ANY classification level with ANYONE he deems fit. Second the other US official in the room, a retired US Army general, has said what they talked about wasn't out of line for the meeting and that it was 'wholly appropriate.' And third, who the hell leaked the nature of the material supposedly discussed in that meeting? If it was highly classified and too sensitive for the media to publish the details, that person is guilty of a serious felony. 

You're totally right, I didn't even think about this.  I mean, it's sounding like it wasn't even classified info to start with seeing as how loads of articles were published months ago covering the whole thing about ISIS trying to plant bombs in laptops.  But let's just say for a second that Trump did in fact reveal classified information: who actually has the authority to  condemn his actions?  As president, he has the authority to outrank any general or government agency.

The problem with the left is that they have been brainwashed into believing that the mainstream media (aka. George Soros) somehow outranks the US president and every other sovereign leader in matters of internal government policy.  This is how sick our society has become when a nation can no longer elect a leader who can make independent decisions.  To all of you left-wing anti-Trumpers out there: who do you think controls the US corporate media?  Every anti-Trump article you read has been carefully crafted to support the idea of a globalist, borderless society which will be run by unelected elites, just like the EU currently is.  These elites running the media make Trump look like a poor man.  Why on earth would you support these corporate media outlets by believing their narrative?  Do you want to be a slave?

http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6