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I recently sold my Xbox One (that I had gotten by trading it for a PS4) in order to get a PC. I generally prefer Microsoft exclusives, but since all Xbox games will come to Windows 10 from now on, I decided to get a PC.

The thing is I am totally lost with the endless PC components out there and idk what to go but i plan on buying a used full pc due to lack of money.

 

The best afforardble PC i found so far is:

Processor: Intel I7 3770 (3.9GHz, 4 cores, 8 threads, 8M Cache) 

GPU:  MSI RX 480 Gaming X 4GB

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H

Power supply : HEC-600TC-5KW (600W)

Ram: 8GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Vengence Pro

Case: Cooler Master K350

and 1TB hardrive

 

it also comes with a standard monitor, gaming mouse, keyboard, and Xbox 360 controller.

Can someone please tell me how much is this worth? Can it run all 2017 games on Ultra 60fps?

 



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No, of course not. That's not how it works. You need a GTX 1080 Ti to do ultra AND 60 FPS. I have Ryzen 7 1800x paired with a GTX 1080 Ti....

Okay, in all seriousness, personally, I got the best I could get for the money, without going insane, (Titan Xp 2017)

I personally, would not settle for a GTX 1070, nor a 1080.  Nothing from AMD, other than Ryzen interested me at all.  I didn't care about the 1700, nor the 1700x, I went straight for the 1800x.

My PC, and warrenties, taxes, etc. ended up costing me over 3,000 dollars.  I needed 8 cores.  I'm not just playing games on my PC.  I needed more than a 1080, because I wanted minimal frame drops when I'm multi-tasking.  Do you need all that stuff?  No.  I don't play games at 60 FPS on this PC.  Everything I play is at 90 FPS, minimum, unless I'm multi-tasking.  Most games, when I'm not multitasking, will let me go above 144 FPS, which is my monitor's maximum refreshrate.

Adding it things-- What resolution are you playing at?

1080p, I get worse gaming performance than playing 1440p.  Yes, I have to increase my resolution to get higher frame rates.  I can't really tell you one thing from another, because if you want 60 FPS from every PC game in 2017, I doubt even my GTX 1080 Ti will let me do that.  What does ultra settings mean when you game at 700p, or 900p, 1080, or even 2560p, or 3840p.

So, you're going to have to be realistic.  And, if you're the type of person who asks, "what will get me 60 FPS at ultra settings for every 2017 game," you have tons to learn.  Not every game is going to press your CPU.  Not ever game is going to press the GPU.  Look at GTAV.  If your CPU is trash, it will bottleneck the game,.  I don't care if you have a gtx 1280 ti delivered to you from the future.  Some games, the opposite is true. 



You have to spend a lot more to get ultra settings and 60 fps in every game coming out this year.



Wanting to run all games on ultra at 60fps is a madmans dream. Only attainable if you're constantly upgrading your hardware. The RX 480 will run most new games on high at high frame rates no problem. The CPU is a bit older, but will still do fine due to Intel not really improving their efficiency over 10% every generation of processor in the recent years. This config will probably run most games quite well, but I'd scale your expectations a bit more realistically.



You might want to mention whether you're intending to run games at 1080p, 4K, or something else.



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Zkuq said:
You might want to mention whether you're intending to run games at 1080p, 4K, or something else.

He might want to mention specifically the games he intends to get this PC for, too.  but, the best thing I can offer is an I7 7700k, and a GTX 1080 Ti FTW 3, by EVGA.  He can use super sampling to have the issues you normally have by playing games in 1080p on such a powerful card.

I honestly feel like he should go back to Xbox One, or wait for Scorpio, after reading the post over a few more times.  It doesn't seem logical to get a PC for high tier gaming, when the PC that you need for that will cost several grand.  He's not going to be satisfied.  Probably wont see a difference between the xbox and PC.  Wont be happy with it in the end.

And, the PC the OP listed seems to be worth about 500 bucks.  Personally, I wouldn't pay more than 400 for it, however my PC is so far ahead of the average gamer that I wouldn't consider anything with specs like that.  Most people can't afford it.  I guess you can say I'm out of touch, because having something like that, I would lose my mind.



ibrahimman0 said:

I recently sold my Xbox One (that I had gotten by trading it for a PS4) in order to get a PC. I generally prefer Microsoft exclusives, but since all Xbox games will come to Windows 10 from now on, I decided to get a PC.

The thing is I am totally lost with the endless PC components out there and idk what to go but i plan on buying a used full pc due to lack of money.

 

The best afforardble PC i found so far is:

Processor: Intel I7 3770 (3.9GHz, 4 cores, 8 threads, 8M Cache) (old cpu, but i7, probably ~200$)

GPU:  MSI RX 480 Gaming X 4GB  (~ 260$)

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H (old mb, ~80$?)

Power supply : HEC-600TC-5KW (600W) (~60$?)

Ram: 8GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Vengence Pro (~60$?)

Case: Cooler Master K350  (~50$?)

and 1TB hardrive  (40 to 60$)

 

it also comes with a standard monitor (~80-100$), gaming mouse (30-40$), keyboard (10-20$), and Xbox 360 controller (15$?).

Can someone please tell me how much is this worth? Can it run all 2017 games on Ultra 60fps? (should run fine, maybe not ultra)

 

If your paying like 900$ or so, its probably a fair price.



JRPGfan said:
ibrahimman0 said:

I recently sold my Xbox One (that I had gotten by trading it for a PS4) in order to get a PC. I generally prefer Microsoft exclusives, but since all Xbox games will come to Windows 10 from now on, I decided to get a PC.

The thing is I am totally lost with the endless PC components out there and idk what to go but i plan on buying a used full pc due to lack of money.

 

The best afforardble PC i found so far is:

Processor: Intel I7 3770 (3.9GHz, 4 cores, 8 threads, 8M Cache) (old cpu, but i7, probably ~200$)

GPU:  MSI RX 480 Gaming X 4GB  (~ 260$)

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H (old mb, ~80$?)

Power supply : HEC-600TC-5KW (600W) (~60$?)

Ram: 8GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Vengence Pro (~60$?)

Case: Cooler Master K350  (~50$?)

and 1TB hardrive  (40 to 60$)

 

it also comes with a standard monitor (~80-100$), gaming mouse (30-40$), keyboard (10-20$), and Xbox 360 controller (15$?).

Can someone please tell me how much is this worth? Can it run all 2017 games on Ultra 60fps? (should run fine, maybe not ultra)

 

If your paying like 900$ or so, its probably a fair price.

A used motherboard at 200 dollars is too much.  I only paid 150, or so for mine, and it was new.  AX 370 G5 Gigabyte.  I understand intel boards are generally more expensive than AMD counterparts, but wow...  You'll have to add another 20, or 100 dollars for windows, depending on how you wish to go about obtaining it, if it's not included.  And, it's used, so I'd automatically knock off 50% of the price.

So, again, 500 bucks.  But, that PC is not going to outperform Xbox Scorpio.  I don't think it's worth thinking about if you're not going to be satisfied with it.  It's one thing to say, "Hey, I want a PC that'll let me do this," and another to get a PC that can't do what you wanted because it wasn't in your price range.  Why even do that to yourself?

Please, just go a few months, and get a scorpio.  I was kinda in the same boat...

My last PC build had an i7 4790k and an R9 390x.  When I wasn't multi-tasking, it was fine.  The moment I tried doing other stuff too, my framerates would go from 120, down to 45... In overwatch.... on mostly high settings.

Now, I can play on ultra and get framerates above what my monitor can display anyway...  When I'm not multi-tasking.  As far as playing on epic... Why?  I just tried the setting, just to see.  I'm getting 90FPS on the title screen (orisa at Gibralter, if it makes a difference) on epic at 1440p.  Do I care?  No.  It's the same game, and having extra details in the game, in tiny artifacts that are half the map away from me, when my monitor's native relsolution is 1080p anyway, it makes no sense for me to play on epic and have such a nasty dip in my frames. If I stopped and picked apart the image, I'd see minor differences between the two.  It's really not worth it.

Being at 90fps, that's probably just enough headroom to play at a stable 60 FPS.



Find a part seller and go for an i5-6600 and RX580 or GTX 1060, 16gb of ram and a decent psu (at least 80plus certified). With that you'll be able to play most games at 1080/60+fps with ultra settings. Many part vendors offer themselves to build the pc for you so go for that if you don't want to build it yourself.

I guess it'll cost you about 750$ or so including the 50$ building price (if you look for good prices on places such as newegg). The Windows license you can borrow from our friend Jack Sparrow (unless you want to pay 80 bucks for a legit copy), you could also use grey market and buy a 10$ license from G2A or the likes.

Add 150$ on top of that for a monitor + kb+m. So yeah for 900$ you could get a PC that destroys the PS4, PS4 Pro and XB1. A bit expensive on the short run but with free multiplayer and cheap games much cheaper than consoles on the long run.



The build itself is fine, though it wastes a lot of money on CPU and MB. Those two things are the pieces you can save the most when going for value.

If you're on a budget never go for an i7 and for the mainboard, just pick the cheapest one that still satisfies your needs. Generally all savings from cheaper components go into your GPU, of which you just pick the best one you can afford.

It's hard to properly consult you without any of the important details like budget and what games you intend to play.



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