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o_O.Q on 14 May 2017
Chris Hu said:
o_O.Q said:

you are contradicting yourself

"He wanted absolute power for the state"

"He has nothing in common with socialism"

He wanted absolute power for the German people and a world controlled by a aryan super race.  Anyway you are the one that is clueless because as I said before anyone with a basic knowledge of history and politics agrees that the Nazis where a far right wing party.  Looks like you actually need to study a bit of more history and politics since you are clueless about both.

well yeah that's what you should do apparently... let others do the thinking for you... don't bother using your own grey matter to make conclusions



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WolfpackN64 on 14 May 2017
o_O.Q said:
WolfpackN64 said:

How do you maintain capitalism without rules and a state? Same problem.

As how to achieve socialism, every group has a different opinion so that's quite hard to awnser.

you'd have to define what you mean by capitalism in this context... because of course individuals can have ownership over what they produce without a state and without rules

Capitalism as in an economic system wherin trade and industry are owned (mainly in our case) by private owners with the goal of gaining profit. Ownership over what one produces in capitalism is only true when you're self-employed, otherwise not. The only system wherin this was the case was the feudal economy and even then one had to pay taxes.



JWeinCom on 14 May 2017

What is this world coming to when a white man's show is only allowed to run for seven seasons? THIS OPPRESSION MUST STOP!



Chris Hu on 14 May 2017
o_O.Q said:
Chris Hu said:

He wanted absolute power for the German people and a world controlled by a aryan super race.  Anyway you are the one that is clueless because as I said before anyone with a basic knowledge of history and politics agrees that the Nazis where a far right wing party.  Looks like you actually need to study a bit of more history and politics since you are clueless about both.

well yeah that's what you should do apparently... let others do the thinking for you... don't bother using your own grey matter to make conclusions

My grey matter works fine its you that is clueless on history and politics. 



o_O.Q on 14 May 2017
WolfpackN64 said:
o_O.Q said:

you'd have to define what you mean by capitalism in this context... because of course individuals can have ownership over what they produce without a state and without rules

Capitalism as in an economic system wherin trade and industry are owned (mainly in our case) by private owners with the goal of gaining profit. Ownership over what one produces in capitalism is only true when you're self-employed, otherwise not. The only system wherin this was the case was the feudal economy and even then one had to pay taxes.

fair enough but i don't see where you are bringing abiding by rules and the state into it... you actually seem to be agreeing with me in this post



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Azuren on 14 May 2017
Chris Hu said:
o_O.Q said:

well yeah that's what you should do apparently... let others do the thinking for you... don't bother using your own grey matter to make conclusions

My grey matter works fine its you that is clueless on history and politics. 

No, that would be you. While the Nazi's were taking racism to the maximum, they had a very liberal take on government.



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WolfpackN64 on 15 May 2017
o_O.Q said:
WolfpackN64 said:

Capitalism as in an economic system wherin trade and industry are owned (mainly in our case) by private owners with the goal of gaining profit. Ownership over what one produces in capitalism is only true when you're self-employed, otherwise not. The only system wherin this was the case was the feudal economy and even then one had to pay taxes.

fair enough but i don't see where you are bringing abiding by rules and the state into it... you actually seem to be agreeing with me in this post

because one does not disagree on everything, that would be silly. Taking the state out of the equasion is something that's impossible under capitalism and feudalism, and socialism hasen't succeeded in doing otherwise.



Chris Hu on 15 May 2017
Azuren said:
Chris Hu said:

My grey matter works fine its you that is clueless on history and politics. 

No, that would be you. While the Nazi's were taking racism to the maximum, they had a very liberal take on government.

No, they didn't they where very authoritarian they abolished all the other political parties, there was no freedom of press or speech,  and they controlled the media.  No dictatorship has very liberal take on government and once Hitler declared himself the Fueher on August 2, 1934 until his death on April 30, 1945 Germany was a dictatorship. 



Zkuq on 15 May 2017

The conclusion I'm coming to seems to be that nazis were left-wing, right-wing, libertarian, and authoritarian. I'm glad we've managed to solve the mystery of where nazis stand on the political compass some 70-80 years later.



Spade on 15 May 2017

Show was garbage, not going to miss it.



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