Vladimir Putin

Trump said it was all him making the decision on Comey.  His Vice President and a bunch of his other people explained it completely differently amd said it was AG Sessions, AAG Rosenstein's letters that made Trump "seriously doubt his FBI director so based on their letters, he fired him.  Their stories are all different and NEED to be because AG Sessions is being investigated by the FBI(making his opinion on the FBI not only tainted but agressively against it).  Hell Trump himself could be under investigation and the FBI would not tell the world as they're SUPPOSED to not comment on ongoing investigations(unless you're Hilary Clinton).

Could be said that Trump was burning his bridge with the guy who won him the election when he(Comey) told the world 10 days before the election that there was new information about HER she was being investigated for.

This dumb ass Russian conspiracy thing is just never gonna die is it.. My god, I knew the media had the power to influence peoples minds but I had no idea until recently just how powerful they can be in flat out brain washing people with the most dumb ass shit imaginable. People could probably be told by mainstream media and their party of choice that the world is flat and a large segment of the population will believe them..

Cool I see what you did there! Im asking about the lie you were referring to. So how is the justification a lie again. You wouldn't be spreading fake news would you?

Now, your username kind of confuses me. What do you consider to be socialism, exactly? Because most socialists would generally have extreme issues with the US long before Trump's presidency.

Probably die once the FBI stops findeg evidence that Russia helped put Trump in power as well as the #3 most powerful man in the American government REFUSING to testify to a congressional search for Russia interference as well as other seriously high members of Trumps government showing up with handshakes with known Russian spies.

I mean geeze, that pesky evidence just keeps coming up.  Might as well ignore it though because we never should have the truth!

"Probably die once the FBI stops findeg evidence that Russia helped put Trump in power "....That literally never happend

Perhaps we could all stop caring about the Russia-Trump Conspiracy, and just all admit like rational, educated adults, that he man was a joke of a human being long before he ever decided to start pretending to be a politician, and it is one of the single biggest embarrassments in United States history that a person such as this could literally buy his way into the White House, because people on the far right are too idiotic to put up an even half-way decent candidate, and people on the far left, were too blind and enamored with the idea of "Having Our First Lady President", that they ignored the DECENT candidate running against her.

It is a sick joke that Donald Trump got elected President of the United States of a America, without question. I have no doubt that history will see it that way. BUT, what people in America are CONTINUING to be willfully blind to, is the fact that the reason this even HAPPENED, or was even POSSIBLE to happen, is specifically BECAUSE of what you see, everywhere, even in here, in in this thread. You want to talk about Americans being "brainwashed" or conditioned? Try the fact that the Americans who actually BOTHER voting in the first place, have been conditioned for decades to vote for one of the Big Two parties, ignoring all other options. And that most of THEM, be them "Dem" or "GOP", can and often will blindly vote for whatever candidate their party puts in front of them in a given election, because that's what they've been told is the right thing to do. Because, as we all know, "The Democrats have to SAVE the country by keeping those evil Republicans out of office", and "The Republicans have to SAVE the country by keeping out those evil DEMS". It's an insipid, childish cycle, and the only people who ever actually win in this ongoing scenario, are the Big Two parties, the rich candidates they prop up, and their corporate special interest friends.

First of all, this last election saw one of the lowest ACTUAL voter turnouts in a very long time. So when you talk about "incredibly close" final vote percentages, you're talking about portions of an even SMALLER pool than usual.. It is already a fact that MOST Americans of voting age, DON'T bother voting. That is why in a nation with some 300 million or so odd people, you typically see significantly less than 30 million total votes, in this instance in a Presidential Election. A lot of those people don't vote, because they are apathetic and simply don't care what goes on in the nation, or the world, so long as it doesn't affect them directly, immediately. And many others DO actually care, but have come to the conclusion that their vote is ultimately meaningless, and won't help change anything. And THAT group is the one that affected this last election the most. Not overzealous femenists voting for Hillary, or asshole "Alt-Right" geeks and old deep-friend rednecks passionately voting for Trump. Those two groups COMBINED make up only a fraction of the American population. A LOT of people, on various points in the political spectrum (And yes that includes many traditional conservatives), either voted for a third party option that never has any real chance of winning, like Johnson, or they didn't vote at all, BECAUSE they couldnt' stomach either candidate.

Donald Trump didn't win because Alt-Right "Nazis" are taking over America, any more than he won because obnoxious SJWs were pushing for a corrupt candidate just because she had a vagina. Trump "won", because MOST Americans simply didn't vote. The people who actually could have swayed the election in Clinton's favor, didn't bother, because they saw her for what she is: a lying, conniving, phony, corporately bought and owned asshole. The Republican Party allowed itself to get highjacked by Trump, because they were SO desperate to get their asses back in the White House at any cost, that they went to bed with a slug of a man whom they didn't even LIKE or truly endorse. And The Democrats, meanwhile, instead of riding the tidal wave of enthusiasm of a candidate who not only had a historical amount (as in near 100%) of VOTER funding for his campaign, but who also coincidentally had a historically high youth vote, chose to stick with the "Status Quo". Hillary had been the "anointed one", destined to be the First Female President, even before her husband left office. It just so HAPPENED that the people in charge of the DNC, were some of her biggest supporters and allies.

So what we the American voting public got, was quite possibly THE worst choice of evils in a Presidential election, maybe ever. And that's saying something, because W. Bush vs. Kerry was PRETTY goddamn bad. But the bottom line is, to MOST Americans, BOTH candidates were incredibly unlikable, corrupt, untrustworthy, you name it. Even to many who actually DID vote, they voted for them STILL disliking them, but they still had to "toe that party line". And THAT is why Donald Trump is now the President of the United States of America. Not because he rode some tidal wave of populist approval. But as an apathetic afterthought, and a symptom of a socio-political disease that has infected this nation for...well, for most of it's existence actually. But it's certainly gotten worse, this "Two Party System" bullshit, and the corruption circle-jerk in DC that encompasses it, within the last few decades.

Me? It makes me sick that Trump is President. But I also feel the same as I did on election day: That both choices were equally fucked, and I wasn't about to put my stamp on either one of those people. Many Americans felt that way too, obviously. So I feel, as I did then, that America is sleeping in the bed they made. If Trump is the kind of cartoonish level of scumbag that people will allow to even BECOME a Nominee, let alone WIN an election? Then he is precisely what America deserves right now. Until we as a people can perhaps grow the hell up, STOP being so fixated on this "Liberal vs. Conservative" bullshit, get our the nation's head out of it's ass, and actually PROGRESS as a people. It's the 21st Century, yet a lot of folks, even YOUNG folks, act as if we're still stuck in the fuckin' 1950s.

And with that, DevilRising won the thread

Sure makes you wonder if people are going to vote next time. :)

Me I can't see Trump going another term. The guy already said some things (the job wasn't what he thought it was) that have me wondering if he's even going to make it one term.  This isn't the damn apprentice show and someone should have told him that.  He didn't have the unimpeachable ethics for the job to begin with and someone should have reminded him of that fact and pointed back through all all the bankrupcy's and damn near close to jailtime he barely missed.  Look at the faces of past presidents and see what doing the job does to your body.

I truly begin he was like a kid on a carosel reaching for the gold ring, through a series of abortions of right versus wrong he got it and nwo he doesn't have a damn clue what to do with it.(other than drop bombs that have never needed to be dropped before costing $170,000 and getting very little in return)