My main focus is on Xenoblade Chronicles 2. That and hopefully Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC.
All the rest is extra candy.
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Miyamotoo said:
So far no (we could easily have at least one more in-house game for end of 2017.). And like I wrote thats actually great 1st party support for 1st 9 months of console, blind man could see that Switch 1st 9 months shit all over full Wii Us 1st year, that's clear evidence. Actually yes, Nintendo Digital presentations-Spotlight are basically just bigger Nintendo Directs, with bigger and more announcements, but format is same. And you have clear example with last ND with "focus". Of Course, Wii U was dead and they basically used last E3 to promote huge Switch launch game, and not just that E3, but Switch and Zelda BotW sales proves us that they done great job, while some people when Nintendo announced they plan that they will have just Zelda BotW on E3 that Nintendo is crazy, and like usually Nintendo prove them they are wrong. Again, beacuse 2017. games are games that will be out in near future (1-6 months), not in 1-2 years, so they want to have more infos and to promote them more because they will have much more time for 2018. titles later. They not sacrifice anything, they will show some of 2018. games but they will just talk and gave us more infos about 2017. games, and that totally make sense because they are coming in relatively near future while they will later have more time for games that will be relased in 1-2 years. Yes, E3 is biggest event and that why they will definitely talk about some 2018. games also. But of course they failed to have strong output with 3DS on start when they were preparing Wii U launch also in same time. But Switch is completely different, they started strong out of gate and they very smart scheduled stronger game on around every 1.5 months in 1st 9 months of console on market and they will easily continue momentum. Also you ignoring point that Nintendo lifted 3DS support (almost all 2017. 3DS games are done by external teams), that basicly means that all Nintendo teams are working on games for Switch. Problem is that you are very insecure, fact that are you any person here who doubt about 2018. games for Switch proves that. They didn't have any reason to talk about 2018. games in January 2017. and of course they will talk about some 2018. games now at E3. They dont need Stage, Nintendo love to do things on own way, and actually I like more Nintendo E3 plans than just live conference. I dont see any point to continue with this, you dont want to see or you deny some clear and obvous facts, while you keep with some very weak and vague points, fact that you trying to compare Wii U with Switch proves that, because they are totally different especially in terms of games in 1st year and success. So I will not reply you any more on this matter, you can continue thinking that Switch is same like Wii U, that Nintendo will not talk about 2018. games at E3 and that Nintendo actually has problem with Switch games for 2018. |
I don't know why you keep insisting it's a 9 month period when it's from March 3rd to 31st December (a 10 month period).
So, let's look at the numbers:
Switch has - so far - in a 10 month period, 5 original 1st party games. How many did Wii U have during the same time frame?
Mario U
NintendoLand
Pikmin 3
Game & Wario
New Super Luigi U (i'll count this as half a game as it used assets from Mario U)
So, 4 games and a half versus 5 games... Switch production completely puts Wii U numbers to shame... how did i not see that?! (/end sarcasm).
If you are talking about quality, then yes, you are right. But no one was talking about quality.
Let me get this straight, Nintendo can talk about 2018 and beyond games from other companies, but not revealing their own games is ok and I can't question why?
Having a clear intention of not coming out strong with their 2018 plans, is also ok? Because they have already proven that they will offer better support than they did for Wii U, right? 4 and a half games vs 5 games in the same time frame proves that, right? Right?
"fact that are you any person here who doubt about 2018. games for Switch proves that"
Not a valid argument.
| Miyamotoo said:
So I will not reply you any more on this matter |
Woah whut, Miyamotoo being the man and ending an otherwise endless argument? I have to applaud you sir!
DélioPT said:
I don't know why you keep insisting it's a 9 month period when it's from March 3rd to 31st December (a 10 month period). So, 4 games and a half versus 5 games... Switch production completely puts Wii U numbers to shame... how did i not see that?! (/end sarcasm). If you are talking about quality, then yes, you are right. But no one was talking about quality. Let me get this straight, Nintendo can talk about 2018 and beyond games from other companies, but not revealing their own games is ok and I can't question why? "fact that are you any person here who doubt about 2018. games for Switch proves that" |
Délio, sorry to get into this discussion, but I'd like to list some things you might not have thought of yet. Since you're comparing games like New Super Luigi U and Game & Wario to Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart, I assume you're talking strictly about numbers of games released on the first year and not about quality or sales/success, right?
With that out of the way, take something into consideration: Nintendo always reveals games for the current year on E3s and/or Nintendo Directs, so we can definitely expect the numbers of games releasing this year to increase. Now, I particularly don't expect them to announce much more left for 2017, I believe they will in fact reveal some games for 2018, but that doesn't matter, anyway what I'm saying is... there will definitely be at least 1 or 2 new game(s) announced for this year, even if they are smaller games like Game & Wario. For starters, there are many solid rumors about a Mario vs Rabbids being revealed at E3 and releasing either on August or September. So, for this year we have: Zelda, Mario Kart, Arms, Splatoon 2, Mario vs Rabbibs (very likely), Fire Emblem Warriors, Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2, plus whatever the hell they announce at E3 or other directs. Even if they delay Xenoblade to early 2018, which is likely, we still have 7 exclusive games + probably some other announced this E3 for the 1st year. Not not mention this list includes games that are both better quality wise as well as sales wise. I really think it's an amazing 1st year line up.
On the 2018 matter, like I said, Xenoblade 2 will probably be delayed to 2018 (at least it's what most people think). And then we have Fire Emblem confirmed. At this point, all they have to do is literally to announce 2 games for next year for it to look bright. I mean, we're still 7 months away of it, and if they announce those games, we'll already have 4 exclusives listed for 2018 while still being very far from it. They will, of course, announce new games as months go by and that number will increase.
Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won
| Random_Matt said: Nintendo and MS don't release enough games/new ip's. Not talking about handhelds. |
So I'm expecting good news from E3.
Einsam_Delphin said:
Woah whut, Miyamotoo being the man and ending an otherwise endless argument? I have to applaud you sir! |
:D
Well when I forced to repeat my points and other side obviously is ignoring clear facts, I don't see point of cary any more.
LipeJJ said:
Délio, sorry to get into this discussion, but I'd like to list some things you might not have thought of yet. Since you're comparing games like New Super Luigi U and Game & Wario to Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart, I assume you're talking strictly about numbers of games released on the first year and not about quality or sales/success, right? With that out of the way, take something into consideration: Nintendo always reveals games for the current year on E3s and/or Nintendo Directs, so we can definitely expect the numbers of games releasing this year to increase. Now, I particularly don't expect them to announce much more left for 2017, I believe they will in fact reveal some games for 2018, but that doesn't matter, anyway what I'm saying is... there will definitely be at least 1 or 2 new game(s) announced for this year, even if they are smaller games like Game & Wario. For starters, there are many solid rumors about a Mario vs Rabbids being revealed at E3 and releasing either on August or September. So, for this year we have: Zelda, Mario Kart, Arms, Splatoon 2, Mario vs Rabbibs (very likely), Fire Emblem Warriors, Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2, plus whatever the hell they announce at E3 or other directs. Even if they delay Xenoblade to early 2018, which is likely, we still have 7 exclusive games + probably some other announced this E3 for the 1st year. Not not mention this list includes games that are both better quality wise as well as sales wise. I really think it's an amazing 1st year line up. On the 2018 matter, like I said, Xenoblade 2 will probably be delayed to 2018 (at least it's what most people think). And then we have Fire Emblem confirmed. At this point, all they have to do is literally to announce 2 games for next year for it to look bright. I mean, we're still 7 months away of it, and if they announce those games, we'll already have 4 exclusives listed for 2018 while still being very far from it. They will, of course, announce new games as months go by and that number will increase. |
No problem in stating your views. It's a forum, after all.
You are correct. i'm only speaking in term of quantity, not quality.
To be more precise, the quantity of 1st party efforts.
To give a bit of context, one of the main Wii U problems was the lack of the games from Nintendo themselves.
Yes, it's true that a lot of mistakes from the Wii U era seem corrected (marketing, console concept), this one in particular is, from my point of view, not corrected.
When i compare Nintendo's 1st party efforts for Switch and Wii U, in the same time frame (10 months), what i see is pretty much the same picture: Wii U had 4 1/2 games (I don't even count Luigi U as a full original game) vs Switch's 5 1st party games.
If this isn't the best sign - nor the worst - then come not so great signs.
During the Switch presentation Nintendo didn't even announce a single 2018 from a 1st party studio. But Atlus did (that teaser for SMT) and so did Suda 51.
Why could they reveal something and not Nintendo?
Come E3 and their focus is still 2017 IN the video presentation.
I know that there are going to be 2018 games from Nintendo themselves, in there (really bad if not). Also i'm not trying to say they should focus on 2018 instead of 2017 (not one or the other logic). What shouldn't be the case is that they focus on 2017 games for the presentation. But being the case, i don't see that as a sign that they corrected that specific past mistake (also, take into consideration all of the above).
Personally, i don't see XB2 slipping to 2018. I actually believe MS has got this covered and are able to bring out the game in 2017.
Emily seems really confident it's [Rayman + Mario] the September game. The, we also have Stars (highly rumoured, too).
I do agree with you. In terms of quality, it's way better than what Nintendo made, during Wii U, for pretty much a full year.
So, oficially, we have one - one! - game announced (just that really, no teaser, no nothing) for 2018, by Nintendo.
And the worst part, is that they don't seem keen on hyping 2018... even with E3 coming. Therefore i question.
If they don't announce "a lot" during E3, they better do it before the year ends. But the real question is why do that when you have the biggest stage for that?
Meh They are just going to announce that they will further milk their franchises, maybe take an antagonist from breath of the wild and make a stand alone game much like yoshi.
With ARMS having been blown out, we probably wont see it beyond a brief mention in the presentation, leaving more room for new stuff!
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