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p0isonparadise said:
I expect Switch will start to slow down in the coming weeks to about 150k before MK8D.

Switch in Japan had around 45k sales per week in April and those numbers are with fact that its sold out every week. US and Europe definitely are getting more stocks than Japan, so I wouldnt expect below 200k WW in coming weeks for Switch.

 

Rem87919394 said:
zorg1000 said:

cant sell what isnt available

Nintendo always does this with their stock. That excuse is getting old. Either way Sony is still doing great with all the new system Switch buzz. Stevie Wondet can see that lol

That isn't true, 2 weeks after launch you could buy everywhere 3DS and Wii U, we are now in May and Switch is still hard to find.



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Wii U trounced the PS3!

On a side note; I think they heavily adjusted PS4 weekly numbers, it had been showing a big downward trend in February and March compared to 2016 and is now suddenly up 20% or more yoy. Probably on the back of those official shipment numbers, someone must have figured that 3-3.5 million + on shelves didn't make a heap of sense.



Mummelmann said:
Wii U trounced the PS3!

Only a few hundred thousand more times like this and Wii U will eventually outsell it :)



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Miyamotoo said:
p0isonparadise said:
I expect Switch will start to slow down in the coming weeks to about 150k before MK8D.

Switch in Japan had around 45k sales per week in April and those numbers are with fact that its sold out every week. US and Europe definitely are getting more stocks than Japan, so I wouldnt expect below 200k WW in coming weeks for Switch.

 

Rem87919394 said:

Nintendo always does this with their stock. That excuse is getting old. Either way Sony is still doing great with all the new system Switch buzz. Stevie Wondet can see that lol

That isn't true, 2 weeks after launch you could buy everywhere 3DS and Wii U, we are now in May and Switch is still hard to find.

3DS had to cut off the price by $80 after six months and WiiU was a failure already, I don't know whats going to happen, but I saw a lot of switches in California on Best Buy, Target and Walmart (physical stores), right now I'm living in Australia and there are plenty of Switches on the shelves of EB Games and JB HI-FI.

I don't know if thats the case with most of the countries, but in my country of origin (a small country in Central America) you also can find more switches by now.

 



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kazuyamishima said:
Miyamotoo said:

Switch in Japan had around 45k sales per week in April and those numbers are with fact that its sold out every week. US and Europe definitely are getting more stocks than Japan, so I wouldnt expect below 200k WW in coming weeks for Switch.

 

That isn't true, 2 weeks after launch you could buy everywhere 3DS and Wii U, we are now in May and Switch is still hard to find.

3DS had to cut off the price by $80 after six months and WiiU was a failure already, I don't know whats going to happen, but I saw a lot of switches in California on Best Buy, Target and Walmart (physical stores), right now I'm living in Australia and there are plenty of Switches on the shelves of EB Games and JB HI-FI.

I don't know if thats the case with most of the countries, but in my country of origin (a small country in Central America) you also can find more switches by now.

Yes, 3DS had price cut beacuse it didnt sell like Nintendo expected, Switch in other hand is selling better than they expected, thats why they double plan of production from 8m to 16m console this year, and thats why they still cant keep up with demand. Wii U has terrible sales basically right away after launch and holiday season.

In Japan, US and some countries in Europe its very hard to find Switch, stores are getting them but they are being very fast sold out, and you actually have waiting lists on some markets.



AlfredoTurkey said:
The 9th generation has officially begun.

"9th generation" how adorable! The switch doesn't belong in an industry-wide generation, but if you do insist on cramming it into one for some reason I'd be interested to know what defines the Switch as being in the "9th gen" when (assuming the PS5 launches 2020):

It'll share more of it's software library with PS4 than PS5.
It's release date will likely be closer to PS4 than PS5.
It's closer in power to PS4
It'll spend more of it's life on the market against PS4 than PS5.

So what makes this device more fitting to be in a group with PS5 than PS4?

Whether you choose to define generation by time, power or software "ninth-gen" certainly doesn't seem to make sense. Though ushering in a fictional ninth-generation is a convenient way to move-on from recent performances, both by Nintendo themselves with the WiiU and their competitors with the PS4.

Let's not get bogged down by Archaic terminology and shackle the switch to some "generation" because apparently it has to be in one. There's no reason you have to put it in one.



Barkley said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
The 9th generation has officially begun.

"9th generation" how adorable! The switch doesn't belong in an industry-wide generation, but if you do insist on cramming it into one for some reason I'd be interested to know what defines the Switch as being in the "9th gen" when (assuming the PS5 launches 2020):

It'll share more of it's software library with PS4 than PS5.
It's release date will likely be closer to PS4 than PS5.
It's closer in power to PS4
It'll spend more of it's life on the market against PS4 than PS5.

So what makes this device more fitting to be in a group with PS5 than PS4?

Whether you choose to define generation by time, power or software "ninth-gen" certainly doesn't seem to make sense. Though ushering in a fictional ninth-generation is a convenient way to move-on from recent performances, both by Nintendo themselves with the WiiU and their competitors with the PS4.

Let's not get bogged down by Archaic terminology and shackle the switch to some "generation" because apparently it has to be in one. There's no reason you have to put it in one.

Wii was much closer to power to PS2/Xbox than to PS3/Xbox360, Wii U was much closer in power to PS3/Xbox360 than to PS4/XB1. Clearly power don't defy generations of console.

Wii U was definitely 8. gen console, and fact is that Switch is new generation of Nintendo console.



Miyamotoo said:

Wii was much closer to power to PS2/Xbox than to PS3/Xbox360, Wii U was much closer in power to PS3/Xbox360 than to PS4/XB1. Clearly power don't defy generations of console.

Wii U was definitely 8. gen console, and fact is that Switch is new generation of Nintendo console.

I never said it did, I was asking what his defintion of generation was to make it so that Switch is in a group with ps5, when from a power, software and time perspective it's closer to PS4.

Switch is nintendo's next generation system, but there's no logical reason to group it with PS5, and there's no reason to group it with other systems either.



Rem87919394 said:
zorg1000 said:

cant sell what isnt available

Nintendo always does this with their stock. That excuse is getting old. Either way Sony is still doing great with all the new system Switch buzz. Stevie Wondet can see that lol

Yep they always do it, just like with 3DS & Wii U............oh wait!!!! both those systems failed to meet their shipment goals and both were still massively overshipped taking months to sell through the first month stock. Switch is totally the same situation, right?

Yes PS4 is still doing great, never said it wasnt. The person I quoted said they thought the gap would be bigger and i pointed out that it really cant be much bigger because Switch is nearly sold out.



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