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Veknoid_Outcast said:

Honestly, I don't know. Spencer is more camera-friendly, but hasn't done anything, really, to build up Microsoft's first-party studios. He probably wants to, but Microsoft doesn't want to throw a lot of money at a business line that's minor in the grand scheme of things.

Mattrick presided over some pretty lousy years for Xbox: 2010-2013. Looking back, 2010 seems to be the end of an era -- the last great Halo game and the introduction of Kinect, which would go on to hamstring the XOne launch.

Frankly, I don't think it really matters who the face of Xbox is. The glory years on 360 are gone and probably lost forever. Microsoft will continue to monetize evergreen series like Halo, Gears, and Forza, and continue to make money off subscriptions, controllers, and micro-transactions, but it won't invest the time and money into the Xbox ecosystem necessary for a true contender in the console space.

There is very little Spencer can do, the damage has already been done by Don to a degree that it will take a miracle to make xbox1 compete with PS4. The other possibilty is, of course, that Sony does something REALLY STUPID that would give xbox a chance to get back in competition but this is highly unlikey as they seem to have learned a painful lesson from PS3. 



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COKTOE said:
konnichiwa said:

Peter Moore.

Don Mattrick did not bring that many games he just made some franchises also available on xbox;...

Anybody else think Peter Moore looks like the Devil? Like he could be reasonably cast as the prince of darkness in a movie?





Anyways, Moore oversaw, and by some peoples estimate, greenlit the RROD castastrophy, knowing there was an issue, and still going forward with the hardware as it was. The most infamous Xbox event ever. I lost respect for him in how that situation was handled. For an extended period (close to 2 years), there was a lot of blustery hoo-blah, denial and inaction. They eventually made good, but still.....








Ka-pi96 said:

Let's see. Xbox 360 released in 2005, mattrick took over in July 2007. People generally seem to say Xbox started off the gen well but PS3 was the one kicking ass by the end.

So Xbox 360 started off with some great ideas, followed that up with some great exclusives and really good 3rd party support, even from Japanese devs. All the great exclusives around the 2007/8 period (Halo 3, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia to name a few) would have surely been planned out well ahead of time (ie. before mattrick arrived). Then after he arrives those kind of games go off the rails (Halo 3 to Halo 4) stop being exclusive (Mass Effect) or stop coming to Xbox (JRPGs). He would have been the one that scrapped Xbox's Japanese support. The one that decided not to purchase Bioware and let EA get them instead. The one that oversaw the decline of Halo.

So in short mattrick fucked up Xbox long before he came out with that terrible Xbox One idea. Phil may be all talk, no action. But compared to mattrick... he's still fucking fantastic!

so who should we credit with the xbox 360 doing well?



Phill is way better.



Phil all the way.

I do expect more upcoming exclusives, preferably single-player games like Quantum Break.



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Spencer is clearly better. The next 2-3 years will decide if he is any good. I expect the XB2 to be released at the end of 2019 or spring 2020. If Spencer can turn the public's mindset from the original XB1, to something less hated over the next 24-36 months with Scorpio and whatever games, he will have earned an award.

If not, the Xbox brand will be dead anyway...



It is near the end of the end....

Kerotan said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Let's see. Xbox 360 released in 2005, mattrick took over in July 2007. People generally seem to say Xbox started off the gen well but PS3 was the one kicking ass by the end.

So Xbox 360 started off with some great ideas, followed that up with some great exclusives and really good 3rd party support, even from Japanese devs. All the great exclusives around the 2007/8 period (Halo 3, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia to name a few) would have surely been planned out well ahead of time (ie. before mattrick arrived). Then after he arrives those kind of games go off the rails (Halo 3 to Halo 4) stop being exclusive (Mass Effect) or stop coming to Xbox (JRPGs). He would have been the one that scrapped Xbox's Japanese support. The one that decided not to purchase Bioware and let EA get them instead. The one that oversaw the decline of Halo.

So in short mattrick fucked up Xbox long before he came out with that terrible Xbox One idea. Phil may be all talk, no action. But compared to mattrick... he's still fucking fantastic!

so who should we credit with the xbox 360 doing well?

SONY xD



J Allard was the face of Xbox 360 in the early days and IMO that was the best era for 360.Those first 2-3 years despite the hardware issues.



Ka-pi96 said:
Kerotan said:

so who should we credit with the xbox 360 doing well?

Well to be fair to mattrick did do the kinect which sold what, 30 million?

But I'd definitely say Peter Moore deserves the credit for Xbox 360. IMO the 360 had by far the best exclusive library for the first half of the gen before PS3 took the second half. If Moore had stayed there maybe Xbox would have continued having a great library of exclusive games and really pushed it's early advantage over the PS3. Who knows...

I think it sold around 25m. 

OK so Peter Moore is the genius that took xbox 360 to the dining table with the big boys. He deserves massive credit by the sounds of it. Any idea why he left the company for EA?



I feel like Don Mattrick is the scapegoat for the whole XB1 launch situation. And they did a good job at pinning it all on him when he obviously wasn't the only one apart of that vision.

But I do like phil more I like Xbox more with phil at the head.

I just feel Phil talks a lot and says nothing. And a lot of things he says seems like he's just blowing smoke, I can't take anything he says seriously,



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