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Pemalite said:
Apparantly Trump likes Australia's Health Care system. Hopefully he realises it's a universal system.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/trump-us-australia-health-care

I mean he isn't wrong, our health system is superior and cheaper.

That's very positive if Trump isnt just giving lip service 



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And what country in the world is responsible for the most advancement in medical care? the US

The biggest problems with US healthcare are the wrong regulations, and lack of competitiveness among health insurers. Followed up by Americans using more medicine than is needed since they watch commercials that tell them they need prescription drugs



thranx said:
And what country in the world is responsible for the most advancement in medical care? the US

The biggest problems with US healthcare are the wrong regulations, and lack of competitiveness among health insurers. Followed up by Americans using more medicine than is needed since they watch commercials that tell them they need prescription drugs

What good is having the most advanced medical care if no one can afford to use it?
Most of your medical breakthroughs end up stuck behind red tape, silly patents, corporate greed.
Even Genes are patented so competitors can't use it, stifling innovation. It's retarded and stupid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_patents_in_the_United_States#Gene_patents

With that, other countries have contributed significantly to medical research, my own country Australia for instance made some big breakthroughs with Penicillian, Cancer Research, Bionic Ear etc'.
And we have the most amount of Nobel laureates per capita in the world.

We punch above our weight with medical research on a per-capita basis, Have better healthcare. Cheaper Healthcare. Healthcare that is more widely available.
You can stop with the excuses for your medical system that simply hasn't worked, the statistics don't lie.

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Most countries with Universal Health Care systems place a cost cap on most drugs, companies are free to compete under that cap. That keeps costs in control.
In the USA, despite having a less regulated industry with a presumably higher degree of competition... Some drugs continiously increase in price, even with multiple competitors. One company sets a higher price and the rest tends to follow... In an ideal marketplace, the opposite should occur, prices should decrease with time.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mylan-price-hikes-20160830-snap-story.html

The USA needs to look at other countries with highly rated systems and take the good points of those.
Having a universal health system would be a good step to ensure everyone has access to Healthcare, hostpitals shouldn't be private entities. - Contrary to popular belief, it will not result in higher prices, worst quality care, less investment or less innovation. - Examples all around the world have proven that.



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thranx said:
And what country in the world is responsible for the most advancement in medical care? the US

The biggest problems with US healthcare are the wrong regulations, and lack of competitiveness among health insurers. Followed up by Americans using more medicine than is needed since they watch commercials that tell them they need prescription drugs

 

That is extremely shocking, the Western Country with nearly triple the population of the next largest western country has made the most advancements in Medical Care, I can't believe it, Next you'll be saying they've made more advancements than any other country in physics or warfare or tech.

I'm pretty sure Lichtenstein would have the USA beat in some field of research



It has to be more expensive, because you have to finance the research into fields of medicine that make no sense when it comes to healing people.

For instance investments into research to determine how old a scar or previous injury is. That type of medical knowledge mostly serves insurance companies to reject claims so they won't have to pay treatments in the first place.

...but someone has to pay for this, right?



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- George Orwell, ‘1984’

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Donald Trump Praises Australia's Healthcare System, and Bernie Sanders Laughs Out Loud



Trump always was a fan of universal healthcare, the dishonest media just did not report about it. He said this many, many times in his early speeches and debates. But he wants t keep the competition up and costs down and allow international buying, the opposite of monopoly Obamacare.



pokoko said:

Because some people are so worried that others might "get something for free" that they're willing to have higher costs across the board.

Pretty much this plus the ridiculous paranoia people on the country has for anything that can be called socialist



Money in politics.



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I just read an article where it said a simple appendix operation costs between 1500 dollars- 180000 dollars. Yeah I wrote that right that is what the Americans have to pay that Much and the range is that great. A damn simple appendix operation. Can you believe it?



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