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Which is the better movie?

Vol. 1 17 45.95%
 
Vol. 2 10 27.03%
 
Undecided 4 10.81%
 
see results 6 16.22%
 
Total:37
Augen on 12 May 2017

Honestly, I have no idea how two people can really have a discussion on humor or if something makes them laugh. I remember people raving about the Hangover films as comedy gold and I didn't laugh once at those. Meanwhile, the far less commercially successful Hot Fuzz had me in tears and laughing so hard I couldn't breath.

Guardians is somewhere in the middle for me, I smiled and chuckled a lot. It was quantity of jokes and I love the characters so I'm drawn in. I think that may be the key, if you go in indifferent it may not win you over, but if you love this world it is highly enjoyable.



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oniyide on 12 May 2017

Its a good movie, I enjoyed it. I wasnt in love with the first as much as everyone else, oh it was a good movie but as a comics fan and a fan of DNA's whole Annihalition, GotG run. I hated what they did with the Nova Corps and Ronan (he's a much better character in the books) but this one fixed the problem by having not one but TWO villians that were actually good. I think Marvel is about to fix their problem with weak villians. I'm shocked that they took Ego and made him an actual good character.



oniyide on 13 May 2017
mZuzek said:
oniyide said:
Its a good movie, I enjoyed it. I wasnt in love with the first as much as everyone else, oh it was a good movie but as a comics fan and a fan of DNA's whole Annihalition, GotG run. I hated what they did with the Nova Corps and Ronan (he's a much better character in the books) but this one fixed the problem by having not one but TWO villians that were actually good. I think Marvel is about to fix their problem with weak villians. I'm shocked that they took Ego and made him an actual good character.

As much as I hope you're right, I wouldn't take anything in this movie as a sign of things to come from Marvel going forward. It really feels like they just let James Gunn do something standalone and unique without interfering in any way, but with the next movies it looks like we're back to MCU formula and crossovers and stuff.

I don't know, maybe they'll get better villains from now on (I actually thought Zemo and Ultron were alright, but I know I'm mostly alone on that), but I wouldn't count on it, as most of the next movies seem to be more about world-building and pitting big name heroes against big name villains (which is what the MCU has done always so far), rather than have a villain that works on a personal level like Vol. 2's.

I dont really think so, you might be presently surprised. the Vulture looks like he might be compelling, he might surpise me the same way Ego did. Hela looks like her comic book conterpart and then some. Also i feel they laid ground work for good reasons. Mordo is gonna be a great villiam in the Dr. Strange sequel IMHO cause they already did a fine job with him in the first. They kept Zemo alive for a reason. We might have to wait for phase 4 but I feel we're gonna get a big screen masters of evil. Hell even the gold people (sovereign) were good villians in Vol 2 so im expecting the same for volume 3



The Fury on 14 May 2017

Finally got around to seeing this. Weird schedules meant it was the first Marvel I haven't seen opening weekend. My main thoughts, ignoring the obvious plot whole on the level of Chuck Austen X-men writing, it was pretty good, not as good as the first but good. Enjoyable. The first scene looked bloody expensive.

Main villain was nice to see, got a little annoyed when he was portrayed as a human form but then how do you do that and make it seem viable to non-comic readers. Characters were good, funny moments were okay. Much of the same though which is a issue.

Having the origina GoG there was fun even if Vance didn't seem to be part of them, would have been nice to include him even if they were not in the same form.

Hidden scenes were fun too, especially the middle one. Although think he won't play a big role in things while he should. Too much money invested in Robert Downy.



Hmm, pie.

oniyide on 15 May 2017
mZuzek said:
oniyide said:

I dont really think so, you might be presently surprised. the Vulture looks like he might be compelling, he might surpise me the same way Ego did. Hela looks like her comic book conterpart and then some. Also i feel they laid ground work for good reasons. Mordo is gonna be a great villiam in the Dr. Strange sequel IMHO cause they already did a fine job with him in the first. They kept Zemo alive for a reason. We might have to wait for phase 4 but I feel we're gonna get a big screen masters of evil. Hell even the gold people (sovereign) were good villians in Vol 2 so im expecting the same for volume 3

I think I'm just not positive about the future of the MCU at all, even Guardians 3 has me concerned despite it still being written/directed by James Gunn, who I have great trust in (especially after Vol. 2, which had me skeptical before seeing it). In fact, Phase 3 as a whole has been really amazing so far - Civil War was great, Doctor Strange was even better and Vol. 2 is my favorite movie. My point here is just that I really should have no reason to be concerned given how awesome the movies have been, but I just can't help but dislike the direction this franchise as a whole is taking.

The reality is, I don't like crossovers. I never have, that's just my taste. Obviously there's a few crossover things I dig, because in the end it doesn't matter if it's a crossover or not as long as it's good, but in general I always prefer standalone stuff - that's why I'm worried about the MCU's future. Most of the movies we've got since 2014 have been pretty heavy on crossovers (only Guardians 1/2 and Strange escaped that), and it seems it's only going even further in that direction from now on. To be honest I am pretty excited about Homecoming as it looks like a pretty awesome classic Spider-Man movie with a great villain, but I can't help but wish Tony Stark wasn't in it - in fact I wish Stark's presence in the MCU had ended in Iron Man 3, as that movie pretty much finished his character arc and ever since he's been just a huge, pointless nuisance.

oh ok, i can see that. I'm a comic book dude at heart, so i dont mind the cross overs. Alot of people would ask "why didnt the Avengers help"? and questions like that, so i can see why marvel is going in that direction. I think after Thanos its gonna calm down. I like Downey in Civil War but yeah im with you on Spidey, he doesnt need to be in that movie. We'll probably go back to smaller more standalone stuff for phase 4. They cant keep Evans, Downey, Hemsworth etc around forever



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The Fury on 15 May 2017
mZuzek said:

Yeah, with them building this massive thing up to Infinity War ever since 2012, and having announced so little of what's to come beyond it, it's safe to imagine Phase 4 being more focused on smaller, standalone stories, and I do kinda wish that's where they go - but at the same time I am afraid they'll want to keep it going and start setting up another huge event in the future.

To be honest I kinda wish the MCU would just end after Infinity War, with Phase 4 kinda being there just to finish each character's individual stories in a more intricate and personal way. I think we've got enough from this franchise and there doesn't seem to be much room to go from now on... and maybe Marvel feels that way too, which is why they're apparently going to shift focus to the Cosmic Universe after Infinity War (Gunn's already talking about setting up future Cosmic stuff after Vol. 3), so maybe even though the MCU's not going to be done, it'll go through a big change.

The direct does seem wavering, things like delays, adding Spider-man due to deals and dropping the Inhumans stuff has already affected much of what was planned. Where do they go without the main draw actors? 

Would you think a reset is in order? Maybe after a decent enough break. Or could they continue on with a new set of characters/cast of actors?

Not sure how much of a household name Darkhawk can become.



Hmm, pie.

Nymeria on 15 May 2017

Domestic: $246,164,419 39.0%
+ Foreign: $384,400,000 61.0%
= Worldwide: $630,564,419

Looks set to exceed originals' total at this rate. I enjoy the movies because they remind me a lot of fun, colorful 80s with much better technology. To me it is a testament that being so concerned with intellectual property awareness isn't everything with super heroes, people can get on board with fun movies regardless of A list, B list, or even C list.



oniyide on 15 May 2017
mZuzek said:
oniyide said:

oh ok, i can see that. I'm a comic book dude at heart, so i dont mind the cross overs. Alot of people would ask "why didnt the Avengers help"? and questions like that, so i can see why marvel is going in that direction. I think after Thanos its gonna calm down. I like Downey in Civil War but yeah im with you on Spidey, he doesnt need to be in that movie. We'll probably go back to smaller more standalone stuff for phase 4. They cant keep Evans, Downey, Hemsworth etc around forever

Yeah, with them building this massive thing up to Infinity War ever since 2012, and having announced so little of what's to come beyond it, it's safe to imagine Phase 4 being more focused on smaller, standalone stories, and I do kinda wish that's where they go - but at the same time I am afraid they'll want to keep it going and start setting up another huge event in the future.

To be honest I kinda wish the MCU would just end after Infinity War, with Phase 4 kinda being there just to finish each character's individual stories in a more intricate and personal way. I think we've got enough from this franchise and there doesn't seem to be much room to go from now on... and maybe Marvel feels that way too, which is why they're apparently going to shift focus to the Cosmic Universe after Infinity War (Gunn's already talking about setting up future Cosmic stuff after Vol. 3), so maybe even though the MCU's not going to be done, it'll go through a big change.

yeah that would be fine. Their isnt really much you can do after you take on MFing Thanos. I still wouldnt mind one more smaller Avengers movie where they take on Masters of Evil Zemo, a real Mandarin, hell Rockwell as Hammer would be great. IMHO. maybe even a Secret Avengers type thing in the tone of Winter Soldier. But yeah im not seieing a phase 5



oniyide on 15 May 2017
Nymeria said:
Domestic: $246,164,419 39.0%
+ Foreign: $384,400,000 61.0%
= Worldwide: $630,564,419

Looks set to exceed originals' total at this rate. I enjoy the movies because they remind me a lot of fun, colorful 80s with much better technology. To me it is a testament that being so concerned with intellectual property awareness isn't everything with super heroes, people can get on board with fun movies regardless of A list, B list, or even C list.

This who ever thought people would care about Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy, its insanity



Nymeria on 15 May 2017
oniyide said:
Nymeria said:
Domestic: $246,164,419 39.0%
+ Foreign: $384,400,000 61.0%
= Worldwide: $630,564,419

Looks set to exceed originals' total at this rate. I enjoy the movies because they remind me a lot of fun, colorful 80s with much better technology. To me it is a testament that being so concerned with intellectual property awareness isn't everything with super heroes, people can get on board with fun movies regardless of A list, B list, or even C list.

This who ever thought people would care about Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy, its insanity

A decade ago I wasn't sure Iron Man, Thor, or Captain America would be successful.  Now?  I'm not sure when they'll have a flop. Black Panther? Captain Marvel? Squirrel Girl?