"Why do you need to be so obsessed about what critics are saying. "

It's not being obssessed, it's about being bothered by skewed scores of movies on online review sites with the exception of few.

I don't support fresh certifications like they did for Ghostbusters on RT  when the audience score clearly reflects it as a godawful movie and it is indeed. The movie tickets like Fandango have such review sites/scores integrated into its website which misleads movie-goers for a good movie.

I can guarantee, a good number of audience would end up having the same complaint with vol.2, once it releases by the weekend.

Alright, you already consider my stuff as an opinion and 'pulled out of nowhere', there are a lot of 'opinionated' videos  as you wish to call them who are also complaining about the stuff  not being fresh anymore and lacking the actual mojo of vol.1. Most of the positive scores on review sites intends one stuff but implies the other, which means a score 70 still has a negative comment that chimes to a 2.5/5 score. 

"It was also weird to complain about such a broad issue specifically on this thread,.....", I don't think so, maybe this being your own implies so.

"seems to have enjoyed it greatly as well, including here on VGC." still aims at glorifying the movie with an opinion.

I like Youndu and Nebula a lot, they are very interesting.

And what a wide release, man, this thing is playing everywhere down here in Brazil.

Saw it in Imax last thursday... it was an AMAZING experience. One of the best movies I've seen.

"so I guess I'll just stop trying to argue. " This isn't my issue if you can't read what was stated. I started with how Fandango has an influence on movie ticket sales and how RT being integrated into the same domain plays an instrumental role alongside.  I had also cited a very good source in the same post to express my concern over fresh certifications in RT for movies and how they appear skewed with metrics.

Most of the scores seem forced positive, rather than an actual positive. GOTG vol.1 started as a gamble material for the studio, it clicked well with the audience. It was expected by its huge fanbase for vol.2 to do better, but that isn't the case anymore.  Many youtubers who saw the film have openly expressed their dislike on over-reliant jokes and musical cues and how it turned annoying for their overall movie going experience. 

This is to restate that every major sequel to the original suffered from one issue or the other with the critics, for the exception of Winter Soldier. Thanks to the Russos and screenwriters duo. That all being said, BO gross is a non-issue, as all these movies are poised to do well WW, no matter what. DCEU movies performing so, is an epitome of the same.

mZuzek said: GameAnalyser said: "so I guess I'll just stop trying to argue. " This isn't my issue if you can't read what was stated. I started with how Fandango has an influence on movie ticket sales and how RT being integrated into the same domain plays an instrumental role alongside.  I had also cited a very good source in the same post to express my concern over fresh certifications in RT for movies and how they appear skewed with metrics. Most of the scores seem forced positive, rather than an actual positive. GOTG vol.1 started as a gamble material for the studio, it clicked well with the audience. It was expected by its huge fanbase for vol.2 to do better, but that isn't the case anymore.  Many youtubers who saw the film have openly expressed their dislike on over-reliant jokes and musical cues and how it turned annoying for their overall movie going experience.  This is to restate that every major sequel to the original suffered from one issue or the other with the critics, for the exception of Winter Soldier. Thanks to the Russos and screenwriters duo. That all being said, BO gross is a non-issue, as all these movies are poised to do well WW, no matter what. DCEU movies performing so, is an epitome of the same. I stand by what I said. It's pointless to continue arguing. At this point, I don't know why you're so hellbent on this idea that review scores for this movie are busted, because I never even denied it. You seem to know more about what's going on than I do, so maybe it really is all messed up there, but in the end none of that matters. This thread's purpose is to discuss the movie itself, not what some people around the internet are saying and the intent behind what they're saying. You say many youtubers didn't like the movie, well, I've seen plenty of youtubers who did like it a lot, and really the vast majority of people really enjoyed it too, such as: LipeJJ said: Saw it in Imax last thursday... it was an AMAZING experience. One of the best movies I've seen. (glad to share that sentiment with one more person, JJ. It really was so amazing.) ...really, no one's opinion is more important than someone else's. JeremyJahns didn't like it, so what? Just because he's a somewhat famous dude does that mean his opinion is suddenly more valuable than mine or the next guy's? Just because he's a somewhat famous dude, it means that he's right and I'm wrong, and I should just accept that the movie is actually bad because he thinks so? This is why I said it's pointless to continue arguing. The worst part is, at no point in this discussion did you say you watched the movie, despite showing quite a little bit of animosity towards it - which, unless you have actually seen the movie and just didn't say it, really shows you are letting yourself get carried away by other people's thoughts on stuff.

"That all being said, BO gross is a non-issue, as all these movies are poised to do well WW, no matter what. " Quoting my own there for you again.

Yes, there is no point indeed in all this discussion because it's predisposed as amazing and early critics' critiques are not a dime's worth, but opinions.  

I saw the movie yesterday and it was entertaining enough, but overall it felt like this was not planned to be part of the MCU from a story perspective. It mostly fleshes out the established characters but hardly even touches on the overarching plot.
Maybe they were so surprised by the first movies success, that they decided to produce a sequel out of order that they had no plot for.

Very mixed feelings with this film.

First of all, I enjoyed it, it didn't feelt like a waste of money and I laughed a lot more than I thought I would, also I probably like the characters more now and it confirms again how damn cool the character of the racoon is, I love him.

But...

It was too much

Too much jokes - I like that this franchise doesn't take itself too seriously, but this is reaching the point where nothing has any kind of emotional weight because seems like everything is a joke, sometimes felt like I was watching a compilation of sketches, and while I laughed with a lot of them it was just way too much, all the time, whether it fits or not.

Too much shit going on all the time - Movies need to breath, they need moments to sink in, this is simply not the case here, the pacing is all over the place and it feels really unbalanced.

Too much CGI - Seriously, the whole movie must have been made in a green room, the constant oversaturation of special effects and CGI gets annoying and it doens't help with inmersion since it end ups feelling like literally everything you see is fake.

Too much like the first one - Which wouldn't be really a big problem if wasn't because it tries to copy and repeat some of the things that worked on the first one so hard, so constantly and so obviously that sometimes it goes against it.

And then there is the rather ugly color palette they have used, sometimes there is no taste at all in the election of colors, the rather convoluted scenarios doens't help either, the composition of the image is often so baroque, so messy and the colors so questionable that I can't say I'm convinced at all by the visual aspect of this film.

Other than that, the main story is pretty meh,  feels like the movie has many pointless moments, Chris Pratt is still charismatic (and hot) as hell and the OST was pretty cool again (They used "The Chain" from Fleetwood Mac twice, I cannot possibly hate a film that does that)

So yeah, not a bad film, pretty fun to watch overall, good to see with friends or with the family and eat tons of popcorn while laughing together which is cool, but is not really a good movie, it feels too unbalanced compared to the first one, is kind of messy and it doesn't have the same charm at all. I liked it enough to see the next one (maybe not in cinema this time though) but not enough to go around recommending it to people or praising it. Where Volume 1 was a high 7, Volume 2 is barely a 6.

Having tons of pointless moments is not the same as being slow-paced, those moments where they are supossed to let the movie breath and sink in are usually too short or quickly interrumped by some sketch, wether it fits or not, I remember the first one being smarter about this.

The movie has a different focus than the first one, sure, but it still manages to produce many deja vu moments, it also exagerates too much some things that people liked about the first one, like the humor and the personality of some characters, to the point where it seemed a bit parodic sometimes.

The ugly color palette is a personal thing but I'm not sure i'm the one that needs a doctor since one of the friends I saw the film with is a colorist and he was not very convinced about the way they composed those B movie colors at all, but even then is still a personal thing. It wasn't only the colors though, the movie is visually flashy but also messy, is definitely not a great example of image and color composition, which doesn't mean is absolutely horrible either, some parts look better than others and I get the aesthetics they are aiming for, but I don't think they were very on point.